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Old 26-May-2004, 07:04   #176
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what on the uttter BS meter?
I call it "The Scale of Imaginative Attempts at Retrofitting", but it's largely interchangable with a sufficiently well calibrated BS meter.
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Old 26-May-2004, 07:25   #177
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Old 26-May-2004, 07:57   #178
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Oh, but how does it render.... Mercedes Benz Truck Racing ?
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Old 26-May-2004, 07:58   #179
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Nasty, but can anyone BUY a 6800 yet?
From motorola? They were superceded long ago by the 6809 and 68000. Still got one of the latter in a 512K Mac'.
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Old 26-May-2004, 13:31   #180
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Nasty, but can anyone BUY a 6800 yet?
From motorola? They were superceded long ago by the 6809 and 68000. Still got one of the latter in a 512K Mac'.
Didn't the A1000 use a 68000? I don't think the A500 did (can't remember what it used) and I think the A3000 used the... what... 68030? Been too long (and I sold all my Amigas. sniffle.).
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Old 26-May-2004, 13:33   #181
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Nasty, but can anyone BUY a 6800 yet?
From motorola? They were superceded long ago by the 6809 and 68000. Still got one of the latter in a 512K Mac'.
Didn't the A1000 use a 68000? I don't think the A500 did (can't remember what it used) and I think the A3000 used the... what... 68030? Been too long (and I sold all my Amigas. sniffle.).
i think a500 and a2000 had 68000.
a1200 had 68020 !
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Old 26-May-2004, 13:37   #182
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A1000, A500, A2000, A500+, A600, CDTV = 68000
A1200, CD32 = 68EC020
A3000 = 68030
A4000 = 68040
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Old 26-May-2004, 13:46   #183
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The original thread is gone, the pictures in the new thread are bust... where can I see the slides?
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Old 26-May-2004, 14:39   #184
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where can I see the slides?
Why, Hanners just happened to mirror a set of 'em over here at EB.

(Never let it be said that I passed up an opportunity to lure another victim into me lair that is Elite Bastards. )
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Old 26-May-2004, 16:58   #185
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A1000, A500, A2000, A500+, A600, CDTV = 68000
A1200, CD32 = 68EC020
A3000 = 68030
A4000 = 68040
Don't forget the A2500, A3000T...Heh... I owned all of them, including the A2500 and the 3000T (had an A3000, too) except the A1000, A600, A1200, and was never interested in CDTV. Still have a functioning A4000 just loaded with stuff like a z3-fastlane scsi-2 controller connected to a Conner 1.2gig scsi2 (gigantic at the time), a PAR (personal animation recorder) card that let me do 640x480 (plus overscan) x24-bit recording from mulitple sources, including my Lightwave Toaster, and played back at a solid 30 fps directly from an attached, dedicated 500mb (huge at the time) Seagate IDE drive. One of my fondest memories is of T-Rexx Professional, an AREXX scripting language that I used to to control my A/B-roll editing S-VHS decks, a Sunrize 24-bit audio card, and several programs including Toaster CG and Lightwave--ah, it was literally amazing at the time what I could do with it. Ah, man, that was truly the "golden age"--what a blast I had.... Workbench was an amazing OS in its day--easily 10 years ahead of Windoze. Thanks for jogging my memory! If I remember C= for anything it will be that the company never knew what it had....:/
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Old 26-May-2004, 17:33   #186
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A1000, A500, A2000, A500+, A600, CDTV = 68000
A1200, CD32 = 68EC020
A3000 = 68030
A4000 = 68040
Don't forget the NeXTStation which also used a 68040 (although the original NeXTCube used a 68030). A cracking machine which totally outclassed any IBM-PC for years afterwards. It's just a pity that hardly any software was ever produced for it! If only they had merged with Apple sooner...
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Old 26-May-2004, 18:23   #187
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Don't forget the NeXTStation which also used a 68040 (although the original NeXTCube used a 68030). A cracking machine which totally outclassed any IBM-PC for years afterwards. It's just a pity that hardly any software was ever produced for it! If only they had merged with Apple sooner...
Jobs left Apple and formed NeXT, and then Apple persuaded Jobs to come back to the Apple helm by offering Jobs $512M +, much of it going to pay off NeXT's outstanding debts, and so it's a bit difficult to decipher your "if only they had merged with Apple sooner" remarks... NeXT was long dead and buried in debt when Jobs got the bailout from Apple, IIRC. OS X came years later, literally.

NeXTStation was cool, I thought, except for one thing I didn't like at all--a grey-scale graphics output. Jobs never did like color for computers...Heh......which always seemed strange to me, as I'm sure he had no trouble deciding why a color TV was better than a black & white. But that's just Jobs for you: consummate weirdness punctuated by brief spells of manic genius, undergirded by an abiding, perpetual envy of Bill Gates...
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Old 26-May-2004, 20:59   #188
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Don't forget the A2500, A3000T...Heh... I owned all of them, including the A2500 and the 3000T (had an A3000, too) except the A1000, A600, A1200, and was never interested in CDTV. Still have a functioning A4000 just loaded with stuff like a z3-fastlane scsi-2 controller connected to a Conner 1.2gig scsi2 (gigantic at the time), a PAR (personal animation recorder) card that let me do 640x480 (plus overscan) x24-bit recording from mulitple sources, including my Lightwave Toaster, and played back at a solid 30 fps directly from an attached, dedicated 500mb (huge at the time) Seagate IDE drive. One of my fondest memories is of T-Rexx Professional, an AREXX scripting language that I used to to control my A/B-roll editing S-VHS decks, a Sunrize 24-bit audio card, and several programs including Toaster CG and Lightwave--ah, it was literally amazing at the time what I could do with it. Ah, man, that was truly the "golden age"--what a blast I had.... Workbench was an amazing OS in its day--easily 10 years ahead of Windoze. Thanks for jogging my memory! If I remember C= for anything it will be that the company never knew what it had....:/
I had a A500 and A1200 for quite a long time.. I used to write demos on these machines.. We used to write everything in asm and program the custom chips directly. It was really an amazing time.. I remember after each demp party, we browse all the new cool demos and tried to understand how a demo achieved a particular effect with that hardware.. It is too unfortunate that there are not many creative guys around anymore.. Last year, I gave a shot for the demos on PCs, and all I saw was similar fill-rate burning type of effects without any novel ideas...
Humus does much better job than almost all of them...
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Old 27-May-2004, 03:53   #189
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Nasty, but can anyone BUY a 6800 yet?
From motorola? They were superceded long ago by the 6809 and 68000. Still got one of the latter in a 512K Mac'.
Didn't the A1000 use a 68000? I don't think the A500 did (can't remember what it used) and I think the A3000 used the... what... 68030? Been too long (and I sold all my Amigas. sniffle.).
68000
A1000, A500, A600, A2000, A1500

68010
none

68020
addin cpu for A2000

68030
A3000, A4000

68EC020
A1200, CD32

68040
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Old 27-May-2004, 10:44   #190
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Please get back on topic..........
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Old 27-May-2004, 11:11   #191
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It would be better to say:

Please close this thread
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Old 28-May-2004, 05:05   #192
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(/me is still in page 4/10 of this thread so excuse any interruptions made here)

All I know (as I saw something in that page) is this: Erm...Availability of 6xxx products is June...Or July. But NO GOD, on April when the line was launched this was NOT another paper launch. Oh no. Coming real soon now (tm) in a retailer near you.

As soon as DNF will come...Maybe bit earlier, to make things look right.

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Old 28-May-2004, 06:49   #193
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Well according Compusa some cards will be available on the 28th. It depends on the store unfortunately.
Some more information on Nvnews forum
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NeXTStation was cool, I thought, except for one thing I didn't like at all--a grey-scale graphics output. Jobs never did like color for computers...Heh......which always seemed strange to me, as I'm sure he had no trouble deciding why a color TV was better than a black & white.
NeXT made color versions of the NeXTSTATION
http://www.channelu.com/NeXT/History...b/1M4711.1.92/

and a very impressive and expensive graphic card for the NeXT Cube

http://www.vamp.org/next/Images/nextdimension.jpg
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