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Old 13-May-2004, 15:30   #1
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Default Enough with the viruses!

Am i the only one who keeps getting "waves" of emails with the same virus over and over again? I usually get at least 2 a day on every mailbox i have (mobile phone, hotmail, workmail and others)...

It's just so irritating!

And by now, knowing the attachment is always 30Kb, who in their right minds would open it!?!

Enough already!

*sorry, bad day*
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Old 13-May-2004, 15:33   #2
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Am i the only one who keeps getting "waves" of emails with the same virus over and over again? I usually get at least 2 a day on every mailbox i have (mobile phone, hotmail, workmail and others)...

It's just so irritating!

And by now, knowing the attachment is always 30Kb, who in their right minds would open it!?!

Enough already!

*sorry, bad day*
I use Spambayes (MS Outlook plugin built in python) and Norton AV 2004. Spambayes captures about 300 spam mails a day. I usually end up getting 10-20 legit messages. Norton AV quarantines all the virii in the attachments, and I run the liveupdate to check for updated virus defs. every day.

Unfortunately not too many people are that diligent, or know how to be that diligent.
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Old 13-May-2004, 15:37   #3
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Well... it's not good.

Spam is not that bad, the viruses.... I even get email with viruses from MY hotmail address to MY work address or mobile phone!!!!! I mean how stupid is that?!
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Old 13-May-2004, 18:43   #4
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No you're not the only one, I hate that crap too. The worst is when I get emails disguised as coming from my own website. I cannot help but wonder if any other people get stuff like that with my email adress attached to it. The spam filters and AV software help, but some always get through. Considering putting up a seperate PC as a firewall, proxy, anti-spam, anti-everything just to keep the shit away from annoying me on my main PC...
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Old 13-May-2004, 20:09   #5
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Default Re: Enough with the viruses!

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Originally Posted by london-boy
Am i the only one who keeps getting "waves" of emails with the same virus over and over again? I usually get at least 2 a day on every mailbox i have (mobile phone, hotmail, workmail and others)...

It's just so irritating!

And by now, knowing the attachment is always 30Kb, who in their right minds would open it!?!

Enough already!

*sorry, bad day*
I use Spambayes (MS Outlook plugin built in python) and Norton AV 2004. Spambayes captures about 300 spam mails a day. I usually end up getting 10-20 legit messages. Norton AV quarantines all the virii in the attachments, and I run the liveupdate to check for updated virus defs. every day.

Unfortunately not too many people are that diligent, or know how to be that diligent.
I use exactly the same thing Natoma.
Works A1

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Old 14-May-2004, 01:25   #6
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I guess I'm one of the few who actually enjoy the challenge of opening up virus emails just to see my AV software detect them. I usually quarantine them to read the details of the virus like the name/type of virus, when it was born, what it does to your computer etc. Sometimes I would transfer the virus (if it was a rare specimen) to a floppy disk. Then when someone pisses me off I would send an anonymous email to that person with a virus attached. I have a nice EXE virus that deletes 95% of the C drive when clicked on including the Window directory.
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Old 14-May-2004, 03:13   #7
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Anti-virus software are for sissies
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Old 14-May-2004, 12:19   #8
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Anti-virus software are for sissies
It sounds like you're a Mac kinda person...
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Old 14-May-2004, 12:34   #9
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Anti-virus software are for sissies
It sounds like you're a Mac kinda person...

well i agree with him and I don't like macs at all. :P although more to the point is I'd rather not give up a chunk of system resources to some bloatware like norton.


I've been on broadband for at least 3 years now and never had a virus. It only takes a little common sense to not be infected.
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Old 14-May-2004, 12:58   #10
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What would be a good free, or pay-once-get-updates-without-paying-for-update-a-year-later antivirus/firewall software?

I really don't like Nortons and McAfees, 'cos I think an antivirus/firewall software should not be as huge as they are, hogging system resources, nor do I like that I'm sold only a licence for a year.

I have a Trend Micro PC Cillin 2002 in my machine now, it came with my mobo. But it's updating days are over, and I'd need new software.

Zone Alarm is good firewall, I think, but it has no antivirus functions.
Are there good free av software. i don't need scheduling, real time protection. E-mail scanning would be nice though.

I ran the Norton online virus scan recently, and it found two infected files from my PC: csrss.exe (in Windows folder) and RegDPF.reg (in SpyBot directory). My then up to date PC-Cillin did not report any viruses though :?
Does anyone know if they are false alarms or real threat?
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Old 14-May-2004, 13:35   #11
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AVG is a good free anti-virus app.
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Old 14-May-2004, 14:25   #12
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I never use anti-virus software. It used to be that common sense was enough to protect you, though with viruses that now use flaws within Windows you need to include regular patching and a firewall in there... a firewall to stop viruses of all things, who'd have thought
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Old 14-May-2004, 14:28   #13
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What would be a good free, or pay-once-get-updates-without-paying-for-update-a-year-later antivirus/firewall software?
Antivir is quite good and offers frequent updates and of course it is completely free.
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Old 14-May-2004, 15:05   #14
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I also use the free AntiVir, has served me well so far. I agree that AV software isn't really neccessary for those email thingies. Those are just annoyances like spam, nothing else (especially since I don't use outlook). I didn't get infected that cheap ass way once since I am on the net (~10 years). Recently I caught a trojan due to not patching the last 2 major XP sercurity patches soon enough though. That's when the AV software came in handy, as it recognized and removed it. Without the AV software I probably wouldn't even had known it was there until something odd started to happen...
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Old 14-May-2004, 15:28   #15
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That was a joke, AVS are useful in some situations, but I've been using computers for nearly 20 years and I've never had a personal need for them. And NO, I've been mostly using Windows.
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Old 14-May-2004, 16:16   #16
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Am i the only one who keeps getting "waves" of emails with the same virus over and over again? I usually get at least 2 a day on every mailbox i have (mobile phone, hotmail, workmail and others)...

It's just so irritating!
No, more like 2 a bloody HOUR for me for the last few weeks!
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Old 14-May-2004, 20:29   #17
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What would be a good free, or pay-once-get-updates-without-paying-for-update-a-year-later antivirus/firewall software?

I really don't like Nortons and McAfees, 'cos I think an antivirus/firewall software should not be as huge as they are, hogging system resources, nor do I like that I'm sold only a licence for a year.

I have a Trend Micro PC Cillin 2002 in my machine now, it came with my mobo. But it's updating days are over, and I'd need new software.

Zone Alarm is good firewall, I think, but it has no antivirus functions.
Are there good free av software. i don't need scheduling, real time protection. E-mail scanning would be nice though.

I ran the Norton online virus scan recently, and it found two infected files from my PC: csrss.exe (in Windows folder) and RegDPF.reg (in SpyBot directory). My then up to date PC-Cillin did not report any viruses though :?
Does anyone know if they are false alarms or real threat?

csrss in the windows folder doesn't sound to great.

csrss.exe is a pretty vital service that makes windows work. however iirc it should be in windows\system32.

Some viruses (often irc link ones) work by d/ling an executable .rar to your pc under the name of a common program like notepad.exe.

by dumping themselves in the windows directory they get run instead of the regular app whenever you eg open a .txt file (for the notepad one) and does whatever it wants to do. in the case of irc viruses the rar is usually scripted to extract an mirc.exe to some location and run it which then /amsgs the link and gets you laughed at by people.

having a csrss.exe could be a similar thing except obviously the exe can do whatever it's programmed to do. Google seems to suggest spyware (keyloggers etc) are common ones for csrss.exe


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I never use anti-virus software. It used to be that common sense was enough to protect you, though with viruses that now use flaws within Windows you need to include regular patching and a firewall in there... a firewall to stop viruses of all things, who'd have thought
yep thats what I have. most firewalls now will regulate programs running others and also watch to see if they change as well as regulating network traffic.
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Old 14-May-2004, 20:54   #18
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My ISP Nildram has virus and spam blockers on their mail servers which do a great job of blocking all the crap. These should be obligatory!
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