[Scott_Arm]

I'm feeling like hobbying with OpenGL, just to learn how it works and toy around. Nothing serious. I primarily use OSX, though I am setup to boot into Windows if need be. The thing is, I've never really used Objective-C, and don't particularly want to learn it. I'd rather stick with C/C++, which I already know. It seems like I'd have to use GLUT, if I want to use C++. Is that true, or not true? Is GLUT a good place to start when learning? I've heard it has some limitations, but I'm not familiar with what those limitations would be.

[idsn6]

GLUT is not necessary for C++, nor is it a good entry point for modern OpenGL. Take one of Apple's sample OpenGL projects and gut the rendering loop, then replace it with your code. You can combine pure C or C++ with Cocoa just fine.

[Scott_Arm]

Thanks. I've been reading this online book, which uses GLUT (http://www.arcsynthesis.org/gltut). I'm thinking of following all of the tutorials, but doing them with Cocoa instead of GLUT. This book sticks to core profile, so there's none of the fixed-function deprecated stuff. Still seems pretty straightforward for learning the basics. I'll have to figure a few things out in terms of initializing things in OpenGL, but that should be fine. Good to know I can mix C/C++. I took a look at Objective-C once, but I found the syntax ugly, and then I just got bored of the idea of learning it.

[zed]

no you dont need glut at all. I dont use it
u do need to do a bit of obj-c, though not much. prolly ~2% of my code is obj-c the rest is my hybrid c/c++.
I agree obj-c has horrible syntax