[Bludd]

Originally Posted by I.S.T.

So, when I see someone saying that, guess what my first instinct is?

Overreaction?

[I.S.T.]

Originally Posted by Bludd

Overreaction?

More like sick and tired of racist idiots I've had ot deal with, so when I thought i saw another...

[Malo]

I'm not a racist, never considered myself one. I'm Australian and grew up in the midst of many cultures and now live in the US where I do actually find a lot more racism around me and have become quite uncomfortable with it. What I said was a gross generalization, stereotyping a culture and shouldn't have done so.

Can we move on and get rid of this noise?

[I.S.T.]

To get back on topic, everyone I know who has touched this game absolutely loves it. I plan to pick up a copy on Winter sales.

Glad it didn't fall through the cracks of Activision's initial re-tooling of the game and then canceling it.

Also, sorry for the comments Malo. I was wrong.

[Arwin]

I've just tried the demo, on my new PC. Does indeed look great, though I still seem to have to run it on Medium (to get a smooth enough framerate, which makes the fighting - which is very cool - easier), if I want to stay at native res at least (I'm on 3rd gen i& with 550Ti) .. will look into custom config later, first going to try it again downstairs on the 3D tv.

[joker454]

Originally Posted by Arwin

I've just tried the demo, on my new PC. Does indeed look great, though I still seem to have to run it on Medium (to get a smooth enough framerate, which makes the fighting - which is very cool - easier), if I want to stay at native res at least (I'm on 3rd gen i& with 550Ti) .. will look into custom config later, first going to try it again downstairs on the 3D tv.

Your 550ti is a severe weak link, it's like driving a Ferrari on spare tires. It's not a good card even at it's price point, it was very slow even when it was released, if not the slowest card available. Get one of the upcoming 660ti's they are very good bang for the buck.

[Arwin]

I may get a 560Ti first, better value for now I think. The 660Ti doesn't seem significantly faster for the money (only about 1/6th?)

Will have to drop to closer to 100 though (it's something like 220 euro now). So somewhere in six months perhaps.

[Davros]

Theres a good comparison here :
http://www.hwcompare.com/13157/gefor...ce-gtx-660-ti/

[homerdog]

Don't try to play it with a mouse is all I can say.

[Malo]

It's nice to see another DX10+ only game, especially considering it's cross platform. Didn't realize there's a demo, downloading now!

[Man from Atlantis]

would be good to see sgssaa rather than brute force ogssaa which dev's been using.. still fun though, im currently using normal aa(=fxaa) and all other settings maxed w frame rate to 45FPS@1080p with a oc'd 460..

[joker454]

Originally Posted by Arwin

I may get a 560Ti first, better value for now I think. The 660Ti doesn't seem significantly faster for the money (only about 1/6th?)

It's a fair bit quicker, for example at 1920x1080 the 660 gets 79fps on Batman whereas the 560 gets 51fps, 47fps vs 33fps on Metro 2033, and 53fps vs 37fps on BF3. Up to you, but I think you'd get more value long term with a 660, the 560 is pretty old now.

[Malo]

Played the demo, looks like a great game. I wouldn't play it without a controller though, felt very strange on mouse/keyboard. Runs and looks great on my 7870.

Considering actually buying it for full price.

[dobwal]

I've finished it last night. While maybe not as detailed or visually impressive as GTA4 (outside of when its raining at night), I found it to be a superior to GTA4 in alot of ways.

I found that the undercover cop dynamic adds alot to the game. It provides the foundation of having the plot revolving around 2 main storylines that are interwined but allows for more varied missions. Its has less point A to point B then gundown person C style missions than most sandbox games.

I played like 6 or 7 hours before I picked up a weapon. Not that I avoided them as the game is literally devoid of them except for about of 1/4 of the missions that have you use them liberally. Which I didn't mind because I found the hand to hand combat more to my liking. It can be repetitive sometimes but not as repetitive as the gunplay in most other sandbox games. Its AA or AC style combat which isn't as smooth but is alot more varied.

The driving is arcade like but car chase or car combat based mission are much better than those found in GTA, even though getting away from the cops is a little too easy. Chasing someone on foot was kind of lacking just because catching someone seemed impossible at times and kind of cheap because they always ran to a dead end with friends to help in the fight.

Stat building revolves around 3 stats which is the cop, triad and face stat which all have ten levels. Leveling each stat allowed you to move along two different lines of upgrade for each stat. There is also two lines for upgrading everytime you level your melee stat but that is done by finding statues around the city that were stolen from your sifu .

I was far more impressed with the game than the demo.

[digitalwanderer]

Originally Posted by homerdog

Don't try to play it with a mouse is all I can say.

They fixed the mouse/control issues in the 1.5 patch, and I mean they really fixed 'em!

I'm liking the game a whole lot better on the second playthrough with the 1.5 patch, oodles better.

[homerdog]

Doesn't look like they updated the demo which is a shame.

[digitalwanderer]

Sorry to hear that, it really is a night/day difference after the latest patch. Just finished playing it the other day and I enjoyed it a whole lot more. The driving is so much better that I actually enjoyed all the races, and if I had any complaints it would have to be that lock picking is just too easy now. (And I had some bloody conniptions trying to get locks open on the pre-1.5 patched game!)

It really is a great game, well worth the price. Saw it for $35 on a tech bargain deal yesterday.

[Malo]

On sale 50% off this weekend on Steam