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Old 16-Jul-2012, 03:33   #76
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I think in full screen Flash's video rendering/compositing changes considerably. "Stage Video" mode.
http://www.longtailvideo.com/blog/18...s-it-affect-me
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Old 21-Jul-2012, 21:04   #77
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I installed 12.7 beta on my notebook today. It is a ASUS G73JH with Win7 x64. Mobility Radeon 5870.

There are some peculiarities.




ATI FirePro M7820?
Catalyst 11.8?

At first I just installed them over 12.3 but of course since it's a beta CCC still reported 12.3 and I find that unsettling. So I uninstalled, rebooted, reinstalled. Mixed up INF names and Catalyst #s apparently.
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Old 22-Jul-2012, 04:22   #78
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I installed 12.7 beta on my notebook today. It is a ASUS G73JH with Win7 x64. Mobility Radeon 5870.

There are some peculiarities.

ATI FirePro M7820?
Catalyst 11.8?

At first I just installed them over 12.3 but of course since it's a beta CCC still reported 12.3 and I find that unsettling. So I uninstalled, rebooted, reinstalled. Mixed up INF names and Catalyst #s apparently.
The FirePro is strange indeed, as is the CCC reporting Cat 11.8, unless it's what it showed with 12.3's too, as it's known bug that itt just doesn't update sometimes the numbers like it shoud
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Old 23-Jul-2012, 19:14   #79
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FirePro M7820 is apparently the same chip as Mobility 5870 and has the same clock speeds too. Device ID mess up, I guess.

It showed 12.3 before I did the uninstall / reinstall. I don't know where the 11.8 came from, but I probably had 11.8 installed at once point.
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Old 01-Aug-2012, 09:25   #80
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Hello.

Is there any word if the good people at AMD will include any "adaptive vsync" like technology in their future drivers? I find this a great feature for my 570 SLI setup. Actually it has greatly helped me to keep one 570 disabled most of the time, since I always game with vsync enabled, but I hate those moments that the framerate had to drop below 60fps and since vsync was enabled, this meant quite a bit further down than 60fps actually.

Just to give an example, I had done a Crysis 1 fraps gameplay benchmark a while back, on my single 570 at 1080P max settings, noAA and this is what I got:

Adaptive vsync
2012-03-27 20:58:24 - Crysis
Frames: 8886 - Time: 170166ms - Avg: 52.220 - Min: 39 - Max: 61

Normal vsync
2012-03-27 21:04:26 - Crysis
Frames: 5657 - Time: 169994ms - Avg: 33.278 - Min: 26 - Max: 61

As we can see, there's a tremendous difference and I have to add here that the many frame drops to 30fps that the normal vsync had, made the game a very very bad experience.

So I plead the good people of AMD that read this forum, to take a serious look into it. No adaptive vsync could be a deal breaker with many people.

To be honest I haven't looked into Dxtory's framerate limiter, which could provide a similar solution, but I'd rather to have this option on the driver level.
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Old 01-Aug-2012, 09:37   #81
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One more thing I'd like to add, is that I find it very cumbersome that AMD has removed those dlls that MSI Afterburner and possibly other overclocking utilities needed, in order to have a successful, out of the CCC limitations, overclock.

Recently I did some hardware re-arrangement and placed my 5850s on my secondary rig, that didn't have any previous Catalyst installed. I regretfully found that all my MSI Afterburner tries to overclock, failed miserably due to these two dlls missing from my computer and that was due to AMDs decision to not include them any more, since several past driver revisions.

I did manage to correct this however, but it did take me 30-60 minutes of searching, especially of those infernal dlls that were very hard to find on a working link (I do understand that they are AMD property and not freely distributable by anyone but still...).

In the light of a possible 7950 CFX purchase I have come to be very disturbed by the aforementioned short sightedness on AMD's part and these two things could end up being a deal breaker for me, especially now that the 660 Ti is coming.

The lack of an AMD provided 3D stereoscopic gaming solution, compared to Nvidia's 3dvision equivalent does not help either and I really don't know how much I could trust the tridef launcher, but this does not hold such grave importance at the moment.
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Old 01-Aug-2012, 11:42   #82
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Hello.

Is there any word if the good people at AMD will include any "adaptive vsync" like technology in their future drivers? I find this a great feature for my 570 SLI setup. Actually it has greatly helped me to keep one 570 disabled most of the time, since I always game with vsync enabled, but I hate those moments that the framerate had to drop below 60fps and since vsync was enabled, this meant quite a bit further down than 60fps actually.

Just to give an example, I had done a Crysis 1 fraps gameplay benchmark a while back, on my single 570 at 1080P max settings, noAA and this is what I got:

Adaptive vsync
2012-03-27 20:58:24 - Crysis
Frames: 8886 - Time: 170166ms - Avg: 52.220 - Min: 39 - Max: 61

Normal vsync
2012-03-27 21:04:26 - Crysis
Frames: 5657 - Time: 169994ms - Avg: 33.278 - Min: 26 - Max: 61

As we can see, there's a tremendous difference and I have to add here that the many frame drops to 30fps that the normal vsync had, made the game a very very bad experience.

So I plead the good people of AMD that read this forum, to take a serious look into it. No adaptive vsync could be a deal breaker with many people.

To be honest I haven't looked into Dxtory's framerate limiter, which could provide a similar solution, but I'd rather to have this option on the driver level.
framerate limit is called "frame rate target" by nvidia
adaptive vsync is a bit different, (I think it basically disables Vsync if your PC can't render frames at the desired rate, 60Hz or whatever and enables back again when it can)

but it would be great to have both solutions on the AMD side...
I had problems in the past with frame rate just being to high and had to use other solutions...
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Old 01-Aug-2012, 12:19   #83
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Anyone know a 100% reliable way to get CCC to work again on Win7 Home Premium x64 ?
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Old 01-Aug-2012, 12:27   #84
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Anyone know a 100% reliable way to get CCC to work again on Win7 Home Premium x64 ?
Try this

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  1. Uninstall all ATI software, using AMD Catalyst Install Manager.
  2. Remove AMD/ATI files from C:/Users/*You*/AppData/Local and /Roaming.
  3. Check Program Files, Program Files (x86) and Program Data, remove AMD/ATI stuff.
  4. Reboot into Safe Mode.
    Control Panel > Device Manager > enable "Show Hidden Devices": uninstall the card with removal of drivers checked, and uninstall amdkmdag under non-plug and play drivers.
  5. Reboot into normal mode.
  6. In registry delete HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ATI\ACE\
    and
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Control/CLASS/{4D36E968-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}/0001
  7. Install Catalyst (for instance 12.7 Beta)
  8. If now in CCC > Software, there is no Catalyst version row with number but you want it, go to
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Control/CLASS/{4D36E968-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}/0001, create a new String Value, name it Catalyst_Version and give it the value what you want, for instance 12.7 Beta.
If that doesn't work, try other suggestions from this thread.
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Old 01-Aug-2012, 23:03   #85
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Anyone know a 100% reliable way to get CCC to work again on Win7 Home Premium x64 ?
Whenever it wigs out on my WHS machine (Basically server version of 64 bit Win7) I can usually fix it by going to task manager and terminating all processes for CCC. Then restart CCC with admin privilege.

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Old 02-Aug-2012, 08:09   #86
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why does ccc offer me 1920x1080 when my monitor doesnt support that res (ccc knows the max res of my monitor)
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Old 02-Aug-2012, 13:57   #87
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I noticed that too in a couple of games recently, the maximum resolution available was suddenly 1920x1080, which has never appeared before since I have a 1680x1050 LCD.
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Old 02-Aug-2012, 23:30   #88
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Funny enough you mention that ive been playing a few older games and they offered me the strange max res of 1400x1050 ????

ps: i tried setting my desktop to 1920x1080 to see what happend and its not a virtual desktop (a 1680x1050 window on a 1920x1080 desktop) but it looks like 1920x1080 thats been squashed to fit on a 1680x1050 screen

top 1680x1050
bottom 1920x1080 (just the res was changed nothing on the desktop was moved)
ps: the printscreen of the bottom desktop is 1920x1080 so the drivers are squashing that res onto my 1680 screen and the monitor displays an out of range error but still displays the desktop


edit: only tried 1 dx11 game and it didnt offer 1920x1080 as a resolution
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Old 08-Jan-2013, 15:47   #89
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Did anyone fix the problem with Software and Acceleration ?

i still getting it with newest drivers.

Hi,

With the 480GTX i got

timestamp seconds 22.744
1920x1080, 343 average kbps, 10% volume
HTTPVideoPlayer, HTTP, 0 kbps
10 stage fps, 6 video fps, 0 dropped, 0 kbps
accelerated video decoding, accelerated video decoding
NaN db, 1 audio factor

Now on the Sapphire Radeon 7970

timestamp seconds 22.744
1920x1080, 343 average kbps, 10% volume
HTTPVideoPlayer, HTTP, 0 kbps
10 stage fps, 6 video fps, 0 dropped, 0 kbps
software video rendering, accelerated video decoding
NaN db, 1 audio factor

And i see my CPU is working hard with 2 movies at 1080P.

What is the problem ? what does it mean 2 accelerated instead of one .

So it only wor in Full Screen in Explorer 9 and Firefox, in Chrome it doesn't work even if it full or window it says accelerated video decoding, software video rendering
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Old 10-Jan-2013, 13:01   #90
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Cat 12.11 Beta 11, Windows 8 x64 / IE10, Youtube says accelerated for both rendering and decoding in windowed just like fullscreen
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