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Swordfish · 04-Oct-2004, 16:46

Will they?

Also are all the models going to come out AGP? like pro, xt, gt, all that?

Which do you guys think will be the better preforming card?

digitalwanderer · 04-Oct-2004, 16:51

I heard someone say "yes, in a few months" to that yesterday, but I ain't sure.

phenix · 04-Oct-2004, 16:57

Maybe this is what ATI waiting for.
ATI bridge chip on way http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=18853

The chip to turn a PCIe chip to AGP. They say it will come in 2005. I think Nvidia will beat ATI in bringing 6600 to AGP first because they have the bridge chip already.

Swordfish · 04-Oct-2004, 17:08

So which card do you guys think will be the top in preformance?

Like if I understand correctly Nvidia will be better graphicswise (pipelines and such. and ATI will be better preformance (clock speed, mem speed, optimizations)

Evildeus · 04-Oct-2004, 17:13

Nv said November, but who knows

oddfellow · 05-Oct-2004, 09:28

I'm waiting for agp 6600's to appear.

Could be my next card, as this NV35 of mine is really starting to suck

skazz · 05-Oct-2004, 10:18

While you are waiting for the 6600, think about the 6800LE as well... In europe it seems to be pretty widely available for 199 euros (same price as the PCI-e 6600 non-GT 256MB variant and probably cheaper than a 6600GT PCI-e when it turns up).

The 6800LE may have a crippled 6800 core (8x1 pipelines as default like the 6600 series, but slower clocks), however Rivatuner 15.2 now has a software modification option which allows you to reactivate the core back up to 16x1 pipelines. Obviously some cards contain damaged pipelines, but a surprising number of 6800LEs are being reported with fully functional pipelines (including my own).

So for 199 euros I have a card which performs in every way identically to a 6800NU card, just with the help of a simple installed driver from Rivatuner. Fully reversible process... Very good value for money indeed - I could never have got this performance from a similarly priced 6600/X700 since they don't have the extra pipelines to reactivate.

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Swordfish Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 92	Will the 6600s and x700s ever come out in AGP? Will they? Also are all the models going to come out AGP? like pro, xt, gt, all that? Which do you guys think will be the better preforming card?

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Evildeus Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2,657	Nv said November, but who knows __________________ *Keep in mind, these threads are for entertainment purposes, if 3D tech is your hobby. These rumors should be taken with a grain of silicon - Luminescent*

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04-Oct-2004, 16:57	#3
phenix Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Cambridge, MA Posts: 620	Maybe this is what ATI waiting for. ATI bridge chip on way http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=18853 The chip to turn a PCIe chip to AGP. They say it will come in 2005. I think Nvidia will beat ATI in bringing 6600 to AGP first because they have the bridge chip already.

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Swordfish Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 92	So which card do you guys think will be the top in preformance? Like if I understand correctly Nvidia will be better graphicswise (pipelines and such. and ATI will be better preformance (clock speed, mem speed, optimizations)

05-Oct-2004, 10:18	#7
skazz Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 87	While you are waiting for the 6600, think about the 6800LE as well... In europe it seems to be pretty widely available for 199 euros (same price as the PCI-e 6600 non-GT 256MB variant and probably cheaper than a 6600GT PCI-e when it turns up). The 6800LE may have a crippled 6800 core (8x1 pipelines as default like the 6600 series, but slower clocks), however Rivatuner 15.2 now has a software modification option which allows you to reactivate the core back up to 16x1 pipelines. Obviously some cards contain damaged pipelines, but a surprising number of 6800LEs are being reported with fully functional pipelines (including my own). So for 199 euros I have a card which performs in every way identically to a 6800NU card, just with the help of a simple installed driver from Rivatuner. Fully reversible process... Very good value for money indeed - I could never have got this performance from a similarly priced 6600/X700 since they don't have the extra pipelines to reactivate.

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