[Davros]

Originally Posted by tunafish

What they get is something that can be quite a bit more valuable: direct access to nV:s developer support program,

I remember a quote from someone at nv saying "we will port your physics code to physx for free"

ps: I would love Humus to do a week in the life of a Devrel article for b3d, he's been very quiet on the subject.

[Laa-Yosh]

Originally Posted by antwan

Maybe they, as a first party developer already have knowledge of the supposed specs.

Maybe those guys will also kick your ass a few times for leaking NDAed information all over the internet.

Although if that'd really be the case, you'd already be asked to delete your posts...

[Scott_Arm]

Originally Posted by antwan

Maybe I live in a country where the most graphically intensive console game ever (at least up until 2009 / release) was developed. And maybe people who work there are friends of mine since primary school. Maybe they, as a first party developer already have knowledge of the supposed specs. Maybe they were even complaining about a 2GB memory limit, with regards to the current memory footprint.

(Hint: don't count nvidia out)

So, you have friends that work at Guerrilla Games. They told you this stuff, and now you're putting it on the Internet without being very subtle about how you got the information?

[Rangers]

Guys if people want to leak info, I dunno, I'd rather read it than try to get it hidden

Maybe I live in a country where the most graphically intensive console game ever (at least up until 2009 / release) was developed. And maybe people who work there are friends of mine since primary school. Maybe they, as a first party developer already have knowledge of the supposed specs. Maybe they were even complaining about a 2GB memory limit, with regards to the current memory footprint.

(Hint: don't count nvidia out)

I dont understand what Nvidia has to do with the amount of RAM here.

I'd also think it's too late to switch GPU's (no matter which vendor) for Orbis now (if that's what you're hinting is possible)

[Iron Tiger]

GK104 is a midrange GPU in all ways except for selling price and performance. It's smaller, consumes less power, dissipates less heat, runs on a narrower bus, and costs less to manufacture than the 7970, It's close to the older midrange GF114 in all those respects. It isn't so unreasonable to expect something that looks like it making it into the next gen consoles.

If, however, the next gen consoles fall short of its performance, consumers should at least be able to pick up something affordable that can handle what was demoed at this year's E3, by the time the consoles launch.

[kagemaru]

Originally Posted by Iron Tiger

GK104 is a midrange GPU in all ways except for selling price and performance. It's smaller, consumes less power, dissipates less heat, runs on a narrower bus, and costs less to manufacture than the 7970, It's close to the older midrange GF114 in all those respects. It isn't so unreasonable to expect something that looks like it making it into the next gen consoles.

If, however, the next gen consoles fall short of its performance, consumers should at least be able to pick up something affordable that can handle what was demoed at this year's E3, by the time the consoles launch.

Unfortunately I'm not so sure that's going to make that much of a difference. People can build PCs now for rather cheap that kill current gen consoles, but they still play on the old hardware (me being one of them ). As long as there is a noticeable jump, I'm sure the average consumer would be happy, even if it falls short of our expectations.

[pjbliverpool]

Originally Posted by Iron Tiger

GK104 is a midrange GPU in all ways except for selling price and performance. It's smaller, consumes less power, dissipates less heat, runs on a narrower bus, and costs less to manufacture than the 7970, It's close to the older midrange GF114 in all those respects. It isn't so unreasonable to expect something that looks like it making it into the next gen consoles.

It still draws almost 3x as much power as RSX/Xenos though.

[gongo]

so the new rumor is xbox3 is using nvidia gpu...what if the old rumors of amd working with xbox3 is only for the xenos soc die shrink...and the real winner is jen sun hung again??? were there any next gen demoed on tahiti??

[user542745831]

Considering the figures in the presentation over there for example (especially the highlighted (bolded/underlined) parts of the quote):

Originally Posted by unrealengine.com/files/misc/The_Technology_Behind_the_Elemental_Demo_16x9_(2). pdf

http://www.unrealengine.com/files/mi...o_16x9_(2).pdf

Elemental demo

• GDC 2012 demo behind closed doors
• Demonstrate and drive development of Unreal® Engine 4
• NVIDIA® Kepler GK104 (GTX 680)
• Direct3D® 11
• No preprocessing
• Real-time
  • 30 fps
  • FXAA
  • 1080p at 90%

anything below GTX 680 performance/specs would be quite disappointing, wouldn't it?

[almighty]

Originally Posted by user542745831

Considering the figures in the presentation over there for example (especially the highlighted (bolded/underlined) parts of the quote):




anything below GTX 680 performance/specs would be quite disappointing, wouldn't it?

How would it? You're talking about 1080p 30fps on the PC platform, that alone makes all the difference.

In a closed box console you could get the same 1080p 30fps on less powerful hardware because of the differences in coding efficiency.

You just can't compare the way you are.

[user542745831]

Originally Posted by almighty

You're talking about 1080p 30fps on the PC

You might want to take a closer look: at least according to that presentation it apparently isn't even full 1080p...

[almighty]

Originally Posted by user542745831

You might want to take a closer look: at least according to that presentation it apparently isn't even full 1080p...

Quit nit picking... I'm sure you completely understood the point of the post.

[user542745831]

Originally Posted by almighty

Quit nit picking...

May i remind you that you were the one who, just a few minutes ago, wrote the following post in another thread:

Originally Posted by almighty

I do not want t see any sub-hd rendering what so ever next generation and I expect every decent game to be native 1080p

?

Originally Posted by almighty

I'm sure you completely understood the point of the post.

Well:

Originally Posted by almighty

In a closed box console you could get the same 1080p 30fps on less powerful hardware because of the differences in coding efficiency.

How much less powerful ?