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Kyyla · 08-Jul-2012, 23:23

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Originally Posted by thatdude90210

There are no future stories in the ME world. Bioware essentially killed the franchise by having such different endings. There should never have been the Control and Synthesis options. Should have been either victory or defeat. Something like this:

1. Destroy - low EMS: everything is destroyed.
2. Destroy - high EMS: Reapers destroyed, victory
3. Refuse - low EMS: Reaper cycles continues, defeat
4. Refuse - high (higher than EMS for destroy): victory conventionally, but at high cost.

Mac and Casey basically trashed the place on their way out. You can't have games in the future settings when all the endings produced radically different worlds.

More than anything, I resent Hudson and Walters for giving us the steaming turd that is Synthesis. Never in a million years would my Shepard choose to violate every living organism at its DNA level. God, I hate that crap.

Oh there will be more games. This much has been confirmed by Bioware. They'll pick one of the endings (propably high ems destroy) and make it canon.

MfA · 09-Jul-2012, 00:13

It would be nice if that were true ... it would be huge defeat for Mac&Casey (the retcon of the mass relays was already a significant one to begin with). I imagine the writers will push hard for a prequel though, at least the ones not ready to politically align against Mac&Casey (dunno what the environment inside Bioware is at the moment, but it seems they are sticking with Mac for the moment).

Mac&Casey obviously did intend to trash the place on their way out ... a sequel would be spitting in their face.

dobwal · 10-Jul-2012, 16:53

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Originally Posted by Kyyla

Oh there will be more games. This much has been confirmed by Bioware. They'll pick one of the endings (propably high ems destroy) and make it canon.

Agreed. It probably be Mass Effect 4: The Search for Shepard with a new trilogy based on around some new enemy. Maybe some new organic based antagonist that invades the galaxy as we begin to restart the mass relay network.

Laa-Yosh · 10-Jul-2012, 20:56

I really would've preferred them to drop the mass relays and take a step forward with the universe. Everyone's relying on pre-existing technology for space travel and there haven't been any serious scientific breakthroughs for thousands of years, the only changes were political and maybe cultural/social (chief among them: the appearance of humanity on the galactic stage). Rebuilding the network would only restore the status quo, and the various species could thus get back to their old conflicts, making for more of the same in terms of the setting.

I'd much rather see something similar to the first Privateer game, set in a universe that has to develop new technology for long range interstellar travel. The species would have to invest in trade and exploration, there'd be always something new to look forward to, old conflicts would be meaningless without free long distance travel, and previously small issues could become much more serious.

This revised setting would be an ideal match for a combination of the existing gameplay elements with a new space combat gameplay, and also career paths like trader, smuggler, bounty hunter or pirate. The player would have to do some sort of work to equip his team and his ship and stand a chance in space combat; but it'd also be possible to go on "away missions" with the existing 3rd person combat and interact with NPCs on hub worlds too.

Edit: it also wouldn't take away too many characteristics of the universe - the mass effect would still exist, it'd be the driving principle behind space travel, weapons and biotics; but without the relay network it could be seen in a new light, with a lot of fresh potential for interesting developments.

Going back to the same old formula would be a disappointment to me. We've already had three Mass Effect games and countless DLC missions, it's time for something new.

(((interference))) · 19-Jan-2013, 23:01

Does anyone know whether you can transfer ME3 saves from 360 to PC?

I know you could do this for ME1 & 2, was just wondering whether it was possible for 3 as well?

Arwin · 25-Feb-2013, 15:17

This is now a Playstation Plus freebie for March. Pretty happy about it, as I was bummed about not being able to try story mode in the demo, and now I can. Will be interesting to see if it is something my wife could enjoy.

3dcgi · 26-Feb-2013, 02:45

That's a pretty good Freebie. I played through single player twice and still play multiplayer with friends.

function · 03-Mar-2013, 00:09

Just finished Mass Effect 3.

My God, that ending was appalling. Five years, 3 games, and 150 hours building up to that.

Fuck me.

Edit: And fuck you too, Bioware.

Dr Evil · 03-Mar-2013, 06:02

Heh brings some memories. It was worse before the patch

function · 03-Mar-2013, 20:57

I can't get the patch to activate. Tried on my first run through, tried with a completed save (that puts you back before the attack on Cerberus) twice, I've wasted about 6 hours trying to get the extended ending and all it's done is further sour the Mass Effect experience.

Won't be buying any of the Mass Effect 3 DLC, or Mass Effect 4, or anything else from Bioware.

Kyyla · 07-Mar-2013, 21:35

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Originally Posted by function

Just finished Mass Effect 3.

My God, that ending was appalling. Five years, 3 games, and 150 hours building up to that.

Fuck me.

Edit: And fuck you too, Bioware.

I feel you man. Seriously install extended cut.

Meanwhile BioWare just released Shepard and crew's last hurrah (Citadel DLC) with universally positive reception. I guess they still have the touch. I'll be getting it soon because after all is said and done I do love my virtual friends.

Arwin · 07-Mar-2013, 22:12

So I just installed Mass Effect. I hear that it plays much better if you install certain DLC right at the beginning though (and perhaps others not), What do you guys recommend?

Kyyla · 08-Mar-2013, 14:35

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Originally Posted by Arwin

So I just installed Mass Effect. I hear that it plays much better if you install certain DLC right at the beginning though (and perhaps others not), What do you guys recommend?

The original game doesn't have any great DLC content. You can get the BDTS dlc free from ea.com, I've not managed to install it though, so I've just always skipped it. ME2 on the other hand has some great DLC, especially Lair of the Shadow Broker.

Sigfried1977 · 08-Mar-2013, 16:45

You cannot get Mass Effect 1 on the PS3 without the dlc anyway. It's built-in.

patsu · 08-Mar-2013, 16:50

For EU PS+ members, ME3 is free too. :shake fist:

warb · 10-Mar-2013, 00:25

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Originally Posted by function

I can't get the patch to activate. Tried on my first run through, tried with a completed save (that puts you back before the attack on Cerberus) twice, I've wasted about 6 hours trying to get the extended ending and all it's done is further sour the Mass Effect experience.

Won't be buying any of the Mass Effect 3 DLC, or Mass Effect 4, or anything else from Bioware.

Really? The ending was a bit naff but the build up/rest of the game was good. ME3 was the best game in the series overall for me.

The Citadel DLC is brilliant by the way.

Kyyla · 10-Mar-2013, 08:47

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Originally Posted by warb

Really? The ending was a bit naff but the build up/rest of the game was good. ME3 was the best game in the series overall for me.

The Citadel DLC is brilliant by the way.

Yeah it's been getting a lot of positive attention. I've yet to play it, I'm currently in ME2 on my full trilogy playtrough.

Billy Idol · 10-Mar-2013, 08:50

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Originally Posted by warb

Really? The ending was a bit naff but the build up/rest of the game was good. ME3 was the best game in the series overall for me.

The Citadel DLC is brilliant by the way.

What is the Citadel DLC about? What is good about it...maybe I need to buy it?!?

Cheezdoodles · 10-Mar-2013, 09:33

Picked up me2 yesterday since we got me3 for free with ps plus. Enjoying it!

Kyyla · 10-Mar-2013, 19:22

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Originally Posted by Billy Idol

What is the Citadel DLC about? What is good about it...maybe I need to buy it?!?

Basically it's a big fanservice pack where you get to throw a huge party and hang around with your crew for the last time.

warb · 11-Mar-2013, 01:19

It's lighter than we're used to with ME, they made me laugh, and once you've finished the mission there's the arena, some arcade/casino minigames and a party I haven't reached yet.

DJ12 · 11-Mar-2013, 01:42

Forgot what I didn't like about bioware, remembered after five minutes if sub 25 fps garbage.

At least it was free.

Scott_Arm · 11-Mar-2013, 14:51

Started playing the Citadel DLC. It's pretty well done, and a good length too. Then I'll play the other two DLC and play through the extended ending.

Sigfried1977 · 19-Mar-2013, 10:37

I just started from scratch as well (again). Thanks to the recent ME1 release on PSN my Shepard comes with lenghty ME history now, and it really does seem to make a difference. Also bought a lot of dlc to go along with it (all the sp add-ons sans Omega. 35€ - yikes.). Locking From Ashes behind a pay wall was a huge dick move on EA's behalf as far as I'm concerned. After all, this really isn't some little piece of self-contained story telling like Shadow Broker was. It's certainly no throwaway character like Zaeed (sp?) was either. From Ashes really should have been in the game for everyone.

I really like ME3. More so than ME2 actually. It's just a lot more fun to play from a tps perspective.

Arwin · 19-Mar-2013, 10:43

I tried this for a bit with Story mode. Basically means you're invulnerable and only need to hit the target a few times to kill it. Even then though, it's useless for my wife.

It's not really grabbing me yet though. But I do like the design of the spacecraft.

09-Jul-2012, 00:13	#927
MfA Regular Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,220	It would be nice if that were true ... it would be huge defeat for Mac&Casey (the retcon of the mass relays was already a significant one to begin with). I imagine the writers will push hard for a prequel though, at least the ones not ready to politically align against Mac&Casey (dunno what the environment inside Bioware is at the moment, but it seems they are sticking with Mac for the moment). Mac&Casey obviously did intend to trash the place on their way out ... a sequel would be spitting in their face. __________________ Cinematic is the new streamlined.

10-Jul-2012, 20:56	#929
Laa-Yosh member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 7,484	I really would've preferred them to drop the mass relays and take a step forward with the universe. Everyone's relying on pre-existing technology for space travel and there haven't been any serious scientific breakthroughs for thousands of years, the only changes were political and maybe cultural/social (chief among them: the appearance of humanity on the galactic stage). Rebuilding the network would only restore the status quo, and the various species could thus get back to their old conflicts, making for more of the same in terms of the setting. I'd much rather see something similar to the first Privateer game, set in a universe that has to develop new technology for long range interstellar travel. The species would have to invest in trade and exploration, there'd be always something new to look forward to, old conflicts would be meaningless without free long distance travel, and previously small issues could become much more serious. This revised setting would be an ideal match for a combination of the existing gameplay elements with a new space combat gameplay, and also career paths like trader, smuggler, bounty hunter or pirate. The player would have to do some sort of work to equip his team and his ship and stand a chance in space combat; but it'd also be possible to go on "away missions" with the existing 3rd person combat and interact with NPCs on hub worlds too. Edit: it also wouldn't take away too many characteristics of the universe - the mass effect would still exist, it'd be the driving principle behind space travel, weapons and biotics; but without the relay network it could be seen in a new light, with a lot of fresh potential for interesting developments. Going back to the same old formula would be a disappointment to me. We've already had three Mass Effect games and countless DLC missions, it's time for something new. __________________ My opinions do not represent that of my employer blah blah etc.

03-Mar-2013, 06:02	#934
Dr Evil Anas platyrhynchos Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Finland Posts: 4,359	Heh brings some memories. It was worse before the patch __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpz9USr1RHg&feature=fvw

08-Mar-2013, 16:50	#940
patsu Regular Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 24,905	For EU PS+ members, ME3 is free too. :shake fist: __________________ My wife pays up to hundreds of dollars for paintings we just hang on the wall They do nothing, just hang their. Journey is interactive, so it does more than our paintings. Art can be expensive! Get over it! -- 3rdamention@GAF

10-Mar-2013, 09:33	#944
Cheezdoodles + 1 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,923	Picked up me2 yesterday since we got me3 for free with ps plus. Enjoying it! __________________ "I'm going to get rich when i figure out how to stab people over the internet"

19-Jan-2013, 23:01	#930
(((interference))) Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,849	Does anyone know whether you can transfer ME3 saves from 360 to PC? I know you could do this for ME1 & 2, was just wondering whether it was possible for 3 as well?

25-Feb-2013, 15:17	#931
Arwin Now Officially a Top 10 Poster Join Date: May 2006 Location: Maastricht, The Netherlands Posts: 12,879	This is now a Playstation Plus freebie for March. Pretty happy about it, as I was bummed about not being able to try story mode in the demo, and now I can. Will be interesting to see if it is something my wife could enjoy.

26-Feb-2013, 02:45	#932
3dcgi Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,019	That's a pretty good Freebie. I played through single player twice and still play multiplayer with friends.

03-Mar-2013, 00:09	#933
function Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,391	Just finished Mass Effect 3. My God, that ending was appalling. Five years, 3 games, and 150 hours building up to that. Fuck me. Edit: And fuck you too, Bioware.

03-Mar-2013, 20:57	#935
function Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,391	I can't get the patch to activate. Tried on my first run through, tried with a completed save (that puts you back before the attack on Cerberus) twice, I've wasted about 6 hours trying to get the extended ending and all it's done is further sour the Mass Effect experience. Won't be buying any of the Mass Effect 3 DLC, or Mass Effect 4, or anything else from Bioware.

07-Mar-2013, 22:12	#937
Arwin Now Officially a Top 10 Poster Join Date: May 2006 Location: Maastricht, The Netherlands Posts: 12,879	So I just installed Mass Effect. I hear that it plays much better if you install certain DLC right at the beginning though (and perhaps others not), What do you guys recommend?

08-Mar-2013, 16:45	#939
Sigfried1977 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,876	You cannot get Mass Effect 1 on the PS3 without the dlc anyway. It's built-in.

11-Mar-2013, 01:19	#946
warb Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: UK Posts: 395	It's lighter than we're used to with ME, they made me laugh, and once you've finished the mission there's the arena, some arcade/casino minigames and a party I haven't reached yet.

11-Mar-2013, 01:42	#947
DJ12 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,082	Forgot what I didn't like about bioware, remembered after five minutes if sub 25 fps garbage. At least it was free.

11-Mar-2013, 14:51	#948
Scott_Arm Regular Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 6,793	Started playing the Citadel DLC. It's pretty well done, and a good length too. Then I'll play the other two DLC and play through the extended ending.

19-Mar-2013, 10:37	#949
Sigfried1977 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,876	I just started from scratch as well (again). Thanks to the recent ME1 release on PSN my Shepard comes with lenghty ME history now, and it really does seem to make a difference. Also bought a lot of dlc to go along with it (all the sp add-ons sans Omega. 35€ - yikes.). Locking From Ashes behind a pay wall was a huge dick move on EA's behalf as far as I'm concerned. After all, this really isn't some little piece of self-contained story telling like Shadow Broker was. It's certainly no throwaway character like Zaeed (sp?) was either. From Ashes really should have been in the game for everyone. I really like ME3. More so than ME2 actually. It's just a lot more fun to play from a tps perspective.

19-Mar-2013, 10:43	#950
Arwin Now Officially a Top 10 Poster Join Date: May 2006 Location: Maastricht, The Netherlands Posts: 12,879	I tried this for a bit with Story mode. Basically means you're invulnerable and only need to hit the target a few times to kill it. Even then though, it's useless for my wife. It's not really grabbing me yet though. But I do like the design of the spacecraft.

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