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Svensk Viking · 29-Jun-2012, 02:02

12.6 WHQL and 12.7 Beta is up at AMD's site now

The 12.6 release notes say the HD2000-HD4000 series still are supported. A wild guess from me is because 12.5 never came

Dave Baumann · 29-Jun-2012, 03:16

http://blogs.amd.com/play/2012/06/28/the-new-catalyst/

Davros · 29-Jun-2012, 03:40

Is the whql just the 12.6 beta thats just been certified ?
because it took 3 attempts to install it
attempt 1 : bsod while installing
attempt 2 : didnt install the gfx driver
attempt 3: installed but still get failure installing amd app

Lightman · 29-Jun-2012, 10:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davros

Is the whql just the 12.6 beta thats just been certified ?
because it took 3 attempts to install it
attempt 1 : bsod while installing
attempt 2 : didnt install the gfx driver
attempt 3: installed but still get failure installing amd app

In cases like this I usually do fresh Windows install or restore it to very early backup.
I found out in 9/10 cases like this it solve a lot of problems not only with driver installation but also broken and unrepairable .NET.

I'm aware we all are IT fighters and like to do things the hard way most of the time, but then we start to blame 3rd party vendors for problems caused by something out of their control.

I had upgraded my HTPC to Vista HP x32 (from Acer dead laptop) and it worked well enough but caused BF3 and as far as I know only BF3 (or DX11 titles) to crash randomly within 3-10 minutes of gameplay. Reinstalled few different drivers, underclocked, switched GFX cards and problem still existed. To be clear that Acer custom system image installed and activated just fine with only 1 minor glitch at the end of install where it couldn't find RICOH card reader device.
Eventually I gave up and installed my own Vista Business x64. All graphics related problems solved (there is still problem it's Vista and not 7 but I have only one W7 license for my main Rig which is temporary dead).

Rodéric · 29-Jun-2012, 11:51

I'll give them a try if I don't forget when I get home.

Oh, and Dave, it's obvious nothing else but the games I play and the apps I use matter in the world, I'll send you a list so that you can set your priorities straight !

(obviously joking ^^)

Richard · 29-Jun-2012, 17:33

Installed the 12.7 Beta and I found corruption in the HUD's compass and shout recover gauge:

Rolled back to 12.6 Beta and everything is fine again:
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/...51D1375F0726A/

Arnold Beckenbauer · 29-Jun-2012, 17:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Baumann

http://blogs.amd.com/play/2012/06/28/the-new-catalyst/

Not cool:
http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles...easeNotes.aspx

I thought "Hey, my HD4850 is supported!" But nope...

swaaye · 29-Jun-2012, 18:55

It looks like it supports every series from 2000-7000.

Davros · 29-Jun-2012, 19:19

But more importantly why has Arnold blacked out part of his browser, what is he hiding from us ???

Arnold Beckenbauer · 29-Jun-2012, 19:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by swaaye

It looks like it supports every series from 2000-7000.

Unfortunately no:
1206221454-8.98-120611a-141402C-ATI

swaaye · 29-Jun-2012, 19:53

Ok weird. I loaded that release notes page an hour ago and it had 2000-4000 cards listed. Now it's 5000 and newer only.

Svensk Viking · 29-Jun-2012, 20:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by swaaye

Ok weird. I loaded that release notes page an hour ago and it had 2000-4000 cards listed. Now it's 5000 and newer only.

Ok, I see that too now. The HD2000-4000 series still get directed to that driver though

Bouncing Zabaglione Bros. · 29-Jun-2012, 20:31

Dave, when are we going to get the crashes finally fixed in Adobe Photoshop CS6 when using AMD graphics/opengl acceleration? This is the sort of thing that makes AMD drivers not ready for anything serious.

Quote:

Chris Cox (Employee) June 02, 2012 18:55

We do know of bugs in the ATI drivers that can cause crashes in Liquify. Rolling back to the 12.2/12.3 drivers seems to fix it. ATI is aware of the problem and we are working with them on a solution.

I looked to report it via the AMD driver surveys, but these just tell me they are now closed.

Dave Baumann · 29-Jun-2012, 23:30

http://www.amdsurveys.com/se.ashx?s=5A1E27D20B2F3EC4

short link:

http://www.amd.com/report

Ryan Smith · 30-Jun-2012, 02:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnold Beckenbauer

Unfortunately no:

For what it's worth I've previously poked around at AMD about this. No one has been able to tell me when the next legacy driver will be; it would appear they just flat-out canceled 12.5 (the last regular driver that would support DX10 hardware) and moved on. So I suspect they won't issue a new legacy driver unless they find it necessary.

swaaye · 30-Jun-2012, 04:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan Smith

So I suspect they won't issue a new legacy driver unless they find it necessary.

I wonder what that might take. 12.4 has various problems on 4000 series cards in games (instead use 12.1-12.3), and 38x0 doesn't run Skyrim properly on any driver. But I don't see any forum hate threads popping up about this so I guess few people care anyway.

Grall · 30-Jun-2012, 05:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Baumann

http://www.amd.com/report

What good does reporting the same problem over and over do? Surely you're already aware of this issue, as indicated by the quote in BzB's post.

Or do you prioritize simply based on the amounts of complaints received over a certain issue? If so, maybe we should mount a distributed effort to bombard that report form whenever something crops up in a new, and/or popular title, so that we can be sure to get our hotfixezz before the asian internet cafes and their bizarre dancing games do...

Jawed · 30-Jun-2012, 08:42

AMD needs a publicly promoted "time to fix" graph. If it wants to promote quality then it needs to show that the length of time issues are awaiting a fix is falling. Of course it will take a while to build up such a profile of improved response rate.

A key part of this metric will be that issues that come back to life after being fixed will suffer the full span from raised to fixed. You can't fudge the numbers by saying "it worked for 3 months".

A list of the top 10 games and their "time to no outstanding issues" might also put a rocket up the right arses. Is Rage fixed yet? (Was that ever a top 10 game?)

Dave Baumann · 30-Jun-2012, 14:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grall

What good does reporting the same problem over and over do? Surely you're already aware of this issue, as indicated by the quote in BzB's post.

It will do a lot more than reporting any issues on various forums around - how is anyone going to know the frequency or severity of something that when it is distributed around unmanned forums. Additionally, and more importantly, the descriptions of steps to reproduce the issue are a critical factor in getting anything fixed - reproduction of the bug is the first step to getting it fixed.

loekf · 30-Jun-2012, 15:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Baumann

It will do a lot more than reporting any issues on various forums around - how is anyone going to know the frequency or severity of something that when it is distributed around unmanned forums. Additionally, and more importantly, the descriptions of steps to reproduce the issue are a critical factor in getting anything fixed - reproduction of the bug is the first step to getting it fixed.

Sorry AMD, but is it so hard to make the overscan/underscan settings "stick" ?

12.4: works ok

12.6: whatever you set them to, after a reboot the settings go back to the default ones

I tried various things, incl. a fresh install of 12.6, but nothing helps.

Oh well.. back to 12.4

Davros · 30-Jun-2012, 18:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Baumann

It will do a lot more than reporting any issues on various forums around - how is anyone going to know the frequency or severity of something that when it is distributed around unmanned forums.

Thats why your here Dave keeping an eagle eye out for reported problems

ps: as a retro gamer, should I even bother reporting problems with older games (Ive taken the pov that I would just be wasting my time)
nv did fix avp (released 1999) about 3 years ago, but only after 2 years of saying it was unfix-able and being shown how to fix it by a third party modder.

swaaye · 30-Jun-2012, 18:39

I submitted reports about Quake 4 vs. Cayman and RV670 vs Skyrim. I actually got a human reply on the Quake4 report. But Dave later posted here that they decided to leave it alone because it's some kind of Steam-version problem. What I do is take screenshots, describe how to recreate the problem, post about it here, and then put a link to the post in the problem report.

But regarding RV670 vs. Skyrim - for some reason Bethesda does not support cards below the 4000 series.

Davros · 30-Jun-2012, 21:26

I wonder if Everyone installing amd drivers wouldnt mind taking part in a little survey
Before you quit the installer click view log look for amd app sdk and see if it says success or failure
afaik Ive never had a success no matter what driver version
tnx....

thatdude90210 · 30-Jun-2012, 21:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by loekf

Sorry AMD, but is it so hard to make the overscan/underscan settings "stick" ?

12.4: works ok

12.6: whatever you set them to, after a reboot the settings go back to the default ones

I tried various things, incl. a fresh install of 12.6, but nothing helps.

Oh well.. back to 12.4

I've seen that on one of my computers that's connect to a monitor that only has HDMI input. Set it right and it would revert after reboot or from hibernating. I found a fix somewhere by googling sometime back.

Go to the following key in the registry:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\video{####....}\0000

Create a new DWORD:

"DigitalHDTVDefaultUnderscan" = dword 0x0000

Note: there might be several {####....} , should be the one with most of the ATI settings.

jakobx · 01-Jul-2012, 08:08

Hmm..another driver crash when monitor goes to sleep :/. Using 12.7b. If it happens again ill report it again but since they've been fixing this bug for a while now and it still doesnt seem to work im wondering if there is something fundamentally wrong with zero core technology?

29-Jun-2012, 02:02	#1
Svensk Viking Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 424	AMD Catalyst 12.6 Released (+ 12.7 Beta) 12.6 WHQL and 12.7 Beta is up at AMD's site now The 12.6 release notes say the HD2000-HD4000 series still are supported. A wild guess from me is because 12.5 never came __________________ Ég er sænskur víkingur. Jag är en svensk viking

29-Jun-2012, 03:16	#2
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29-Jun-2012, 03:40	#3
Davros Darlek ****** Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 9,661	Is the whql just the 12.6 beta thats just been certified ? because it took 3 attempts to install it attempt 1 : bsod while installing attempt 2 : didnt install the gfx driver attempt 3: installed but still get failure installing amd app __________________ Guardian of the Most holy Two Terabytes of Gaming Goodness™

29-Jun-2012, 11:51	#5
Rodéric a.k.a. Ingenu Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Apsley, U.K. Posts: 2,752	I'll give them a try if I don't forget when I get home. Oh, and Dave, it's obvious nothing else but the games I play and the apps I use matter in the world, I'll send you a list so that you can set your priorities straight ! (obviously joking ^^) __________________ So many things to do, and yet so little time to spend...

29-Jun-2012, 17:33	#6
Richard Mord's imaginary friend Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: PT, EU Posts: 3,506	Installed the 12.7 Beta and I found corruption in the HUD's compass and shout recover gauge: Rolled back to 12.6 Beta and everything is fine again: http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/...51D1375F0726A/ __________________ The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds, and the pessimist fears this is true. - James Branch Cabell

29-Jun-2012, 18:55	#8
swaaye Entirely Suboptimal Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: WI, USA Posts: 6,867	It looks like it supports every series from 2000-7000.

29-Jun-2012, 19:19	#9
Davros Darlek ****** Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 9,661	But more importantly why has Arnold blacked out part of his browser, what is he hiding from us ??? __________________ Guardian of the Most holy Two Terabytes of Gaming Goodness™

29-Jun-2012, 19:53	#11
swaaye Entirely Suboptimal Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: WI, USA Posts: 6,867	Ok weird. I loaded that release notes page an hour ago and it had 2000-4000 cards listed. Now it's 5000 and newer only.

29-Jun-2012, 23:30	#14
Dave Baumann Gamerscore Wh... Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 12,989	http://www.amdsurveys.com/se.ashx?s=5A1E27D20B2F3EC4 short link: http://www.amd.com/report __________________ Expand. Accelerate. Dominate. Tweet Tweet!

30-Jun-2012, 08:42	#18
Jawed Regular Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: London Posts: 9,867	AMD needs a publicly promoted "time to fix" graph. If it wants to promote quality then it needs to show that the length of time issues are awaiting a fix is falling. Of course it will take a while to build up such a profile of improved response rate. A key part of this metric will be that issues that come back to life after being fixed will suffer the full span from raised to fixed. You can't fudge the numbers by saying "it worked for 3 months". A list of the top 10 games and their "time to no outstanding issues" might also put a rocket up the right arses. Is Rage fixed yet? (Was that ever a top 10 game?) __________________ Can it play WoW?

30-Jun-2012, 18:39	#22
swaaye Entirely Suboptimal Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: WI, USA Posts: 6,867	I submitted reports about Quake 4 vs. Cayman and RV670 vs Skyrim. I actually got a human reply on the Quake4 report. But Dave later posted here that they decided to leave it alone because it's some kind of Steam-version problem. What I do is take screenshots, describe how to recreate the problem, post about it here, and then put a link to the post in the problem report. But regarding RV670 vs. Skyrim - for some reason Bethesda does not support cards below the 4000 series.

30-Jun-2012, 21:26	#23
Davros Darlek ****** Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 9,661	I wonder if Everyone installing amd drivers wouldnt mind taking part in a little survey Before you quit the installer click view log look for amd app sdk and see if it says success or failure afaik Ive never had a success no matter what driver version tnx.... __________________ Guardian of the Most holy Two Terabytes of Gaming Goodness™

01-Jul-2012, 08:08	#25
jakobx Junior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 22	Hmm..another driver crash when monitor goes to sleep :/. Using 12.7b. If it happens again ill report it again but since they've been fixing this bug for a while now and it still doesnt seem to work im wondering if there is something fundamentally wrong with zero core technology?

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