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Old 14-May-2010, 21:36   #951
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Yes, 2xMSAA on 360. No different from the demos as I have been saying all along.
With 2x Temporal AA edges are only smoothed when everything is static?
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Old 15-May-2010, 21:55   #952
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I was going through the lists & noticed that its incorrect about GTA4 (PS3) having QAA & ME2 having the 'selective' UE3 2*MSAA [atleast the DF article agrees that AA is completely turned off in ME2]
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Old 15-May-2010, 23:04   #953
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The recent DF face off article said that QAA is in GTA4 and the expansions, though it's effect is fairly limited.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...nd-25-face-off
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Old 16-May-2010, 05:40   #954
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I was going through the lists & noticed that its incorrect about GTA4 (PS3) having QAA & ME2 having the 'selective' UE3 2*MSAA [atleast the DF article agrees that AA is completely turned off in ME2]
There is MSAA in Mass Effect 2. Most of the shots sent to me at the time didn't show it, but after more examination (my own time) it's the same issue as with other games & lighting. Again, calling it selective AA is a pretty terrible descriptor.

QAA does exist in GTA4.
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Old 16-May-2010, 06:30   #955
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QAA does exist in GTA4.
GTA4 or GTA4:episodes ?
Cause IIRC GTA4 didn't had any sort of AA whatsoever...Episodes dues feature QAA though.
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Old 16-May-2010, 10:01   #956
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MazingerDude is hinting the PS3 version is sub HD, maybe as low as 540p. I wouldn't mind the same res as GTA4 as it seems the framerate is much more solid and image quality is improved.
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Old 16-May-2010, 10:14   #957
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Now saying it maybe 640p, same as GTA4, I'd be happy with that if the other improvements prove true.
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Old 16-May-2010, 10:54   #958
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I'd be perfectly fine with 640p if I get some AA & a smooth framerate...not a similar case with 540p though.

EDIT: Wow, this looks so good:
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/510...0516183425.jpg

That's a framebuffer grab from 360 ver, compare that to this offscreen shot from PS3 ver:
http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/6752/1050030.jpg

or this:
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/3924/1050027.jpg

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Old 16-May-2010, 11:22   #959
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I'd be perfectly fine with 640p if I get some AA & a smooth framerate...not a similar case with 540p though.

EDIT: Wow, this looks so good:
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/510...0516183425.jpg

That's a framebuffer grab from 360 ver, compare that to this offscreen shot from PS3 ver:
http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/6752/1050030.jpg

or this:
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/3924/1050027.jpg
The 360 shot is cleary a better capture, so i think better shots of the PS3 version needed. I did however count 5 more stars in the sky on 360.
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Old 16-May-2010, 11:25   #960
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I did however count 5 more stars in the sky on 360.
lol

Btw MazingerDude says that R* never released a bullshot for RDR....so all those amazing screenshots were frame grabs
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Old 16-May-2010, 13:10   #961
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The 360 shot is cleary a better capture, so i think better shots of the PS3 version needed. I did however count 5 more stars in the sky on 360.
Hmm i would not exactly say that...360 shoot is frame buffer capture,and ps3 shoot is off screen shoot.That should improve AA quite a lot on ps3 version but from here it looks to me that it also has no aa,maybe its taken from SDTV.Will wait for official DF article to pop out.
Anyway,played 360 version of the game for about an hour or so and game is simply an visual achievement...you will have to look hard to find better looking game on consoles(couple of exclusives),and other open world games dont even compare...Texture quality is almost mindblowing for open world game and the detail they put in it is very impressive...

I also havent notice jaggies or significant frame drops,its very smooth.
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Old 16-May-2010, 13:41   #962
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So PS3 version is 540p confirmed? Huge step back from 640p...
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Old 16-May-2010, 13:58   #963
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So PS3 version is 540p confirmed? Huge step back from 640p...
Nothings confirmed. I`d say it still runs at 640P but with improvements in other areas.
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Old 16-May-2010, 17:13   #964
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So PS3 version is 540p confirmed? Huge step back from 640p...
How can you say it's a "huge step back" without seeing the final game? Perhaps the game looks better overall at 540p with added visual effects than it would at 640p without some (or all) of those effects? Why do some of you seem to oversimplify things, when any sensible person should know it's a complicated balancing act?
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Old 18-May-2010, 11:31   #965
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http://www.abload.de/img/red_dead_redemption_ren9bz.jpg
http://miladesn.webs.com/Red_Dead_Re...Xbox_360_5.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/red_dead_redemption_rek764.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/red_dead_redemption_rec5el.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/red_dead_redemption_rey5dd.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/red_dead_redemption_recu59.jpg
Fixed: very hard to me to understand the real resolution...it seems there is an improvement...but QAA complicated the impressions.
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Old 18-May-2010, 11:59   #966
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http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/510...0516183425.jpg
PS3
http://i41.tinypic.com/2q1yu1j.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/imv3o7.jpg

Second one shows exacly that its not 720p.
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Old 18-May-2010, 12:33   #967
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It could be 960x720p or more...be carefull when you talking of real resolution...not 720p not means anything.
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Old 18-May-2010, 13:37   #968
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640 vertical
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Old 18-May-2010, 13:56   #969
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640 vertical
And horizantal?

Could you describe it as "640p" or is it not the right full resolution for that?
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Old 18-May-2010, 14:07   #970
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And horizantal?

Could you describe it as "640p" or is it not the right full resolution for that?
Haven't found any good edges to examine the horizontal res. Anyways, if by "#p" you mean a 16:9 pixel resolution, you'll not get a whole number horizontal with 640 vertical.
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Old 18-May-2010, 14:09   #971
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Haven't found any good edges to examine the horizontal res. Anyways, if by "#p" you mean a 16:9 pixel resolution, you'll not get a whole number horizontal with 640 vertical.
OK, but the total number of pixels in GTA4 is equivalent to 640p? Or no? What would you expect the horizontal to be if the vertical is 640? Same as GTA4? PS. You're certain on the 640 vertical?
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Old 18-May-2010, 14:12   #972
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yes 640p like GTA4
horizontal seem the same than GTA4 too
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OK, but the total number of pixels in GTA4 is equivalent to 640p? Or no? What would you expect the horizontal to be if the vertical is 640? Same as GTA4?
GTA4 (and probably RDR) is little more than 640p, it's 1152x640 (644p equivalent )
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Old 18-May-2010, 14:46   #974
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GTA4 (and probably RDR) is little more than 640p, it's 1152x640 (644p equivalent )
Interesting - gets a little confusing doesn't it! Which screenshot did you use to come up with 640 vertical?
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Old 18-May-2010, 14:49   #975
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Interesting - gets a little confusing doesn't it! Which screenshot did you use to come up with 640 vertical?
Actually so totally not confusing! It's exactly like GTA IV, as expected.
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