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thambos · 25-Aug-2008, 10:44

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Originally Posted by patsu

Nyah nyah... this one is more interesting: http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/n...motion-contro/

If I were MS, I'd maximize my position every Christmas. Here comes motion controlled games and DVD playback

Casual gamers, here comes Microsoft ! (Core gamers are already well taken care of with the FFXIII, Gears of War news).

The Marvel UA/Forza 2 bundle came out the end of last Oct. So if this is a holiday bundle it should come out at the same time. That is, assuming this is legit.

iceberg187 · 25-Aug-2008, 20:58

MoHonRi · 25-Aug-2008, 22:27

Limited Quantities and no rain checks. Maybe they are clearing out the stock of the arcade in preparation for a new SKU's?

Brad Grenz · 26-Aug-2008, 03:17

I noticed that, too. It applies to all three SKUs, but it's a weird disclosure for a permanent price cut. At least the rainchecks part is.

eastmen · 26-Aug-2008, 03:55

The 60 gig sale makes no sense in a close out though. That sku is permit and was just introduced

AlphaWolf · 26-Aug-2008, 04:02

I've seen places put products on sale (for regular price ) and put a disclaimer like that. I wouldn't read too much into it.

Tap In · 26-Aug-2008, 06:36

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Limited Quantities and no rain checks

retail carrot and stick blurb.

AzBat · 27-Aug-2008, 16:45

More proof of the price drop...

http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/26/b...60-price-cuts/

http://kotaku.com/5042272/best-buy-i...ice-cut-action

Tommy McClain

obonicus · 27-Aug-2008, 17:53

No further mention of the super stealth inclusion of motion control, though.

AzBat · 27-Aug-2008, 17:57

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Originally Posted by obonicus

No further mention of the super stealth inclusion of motion control, though.

No, but the rumor was that the motion controller would not show up in the $199 SKU till THIS HOLIDAY. I'm sure we won't see it before November at the earliest, provided there actually is such a device.

Tommy McClain

jb · 27-Aug-2008, 19:05

So we have see adds in Best Buy, Kmart and RadioShack all with the same price structure as well as few SKU price screen grabs (with at least one of them being semi-legit), I think its safe to say this is pretty much confirmed as any rumor can be before the official news.

silhouette · 03-Sep-2008, 22:50

It is official now

http://majornelson.com/archive/2008/...ow-us-199.aspx

Arcade is 199$, 60 Gb Pro is 299$ and Elite is 399$. Very good prices for arcade and pro, not sure about Elite.

Laa-Yosh · 03-Sep-2008, 22:52

The game is on.

DrJay24 · 03-Sep-2008, 23:04

They should have a smaller gap between models, say $79. This price plan really encourages the Arcade, which of course discourages the other revenues streams like XBL games and movie rentals.

I hear the 120GB HD is now $149, making it a good pairing with the Arcade, which makes the Elite kind of a silly buy unless they add a game or two.

They also need to either start including Wi-fi or slash the price of the add-on, even with the price drops the real cost of ownership can be much higher than the base unit price.

Maybe Sony can respond with a $50 drop before X-mas.

eastmen · 03-Sep-2008, 23:22

The 60 gig drive is $100 with 3 months of live free and a head set. That puts it right at the pro's price point and is only lacking high def cables.

RobertR1 · 03-Sep-2008, 23:45

About time! I don't know how well it'll work out in sept. I'll be more curious to see the Oct/nov/dec effect.

Archgamer · 04-Sep-2008, 00:01

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Originally Posted by RobertR1

About time! I don't know how well it'll work out in sept. I'll be more curious to see the Oct/nov/dec effect.

Yeah, all the price cuts they did in the past where short lived.

obonicus · 04-Sep-2008, 00:59

I wonder if MS plans on getting rid of the Elite, or if it is really for folks who care about black/can't do math.

Squilliam · 04-Sep-2008, 01:12

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Originally Posted by obonicus

I wonder if MS plans on getting rid of the Elite, or if it is really for folks who care about black/can't do math.

Doesn't the Elite also come with an HDMI cable with a special optical out or something? Im not sure but I did hear there was something special about the cord.

obonicus · 04-Sep-2008, 01:38

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Originally Posted by Squilliam

Doesn't the Elite also come with an HDMI cable with a special optical out or something? Im not sure but I did hear there was something special about the cord.

It does, but that adapter retails for $50 anyway, and HDMI cables are cheap. You can get them all separately and not save a penny, essentially. (And if you don't want it, you almost have enough left over for a full-priced game.)

AlStrong · 04-Sep-2008, 01:44

Mod Note: Threads merged.

RobertR1 · 04-Sep-2008, 01:59

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Originally Posted by obonicus

It does, but that adapter retails for $50 anyway, and HDMI cables are cheap. You can get them all separately and not save a penny, essentially. (And if you don't want it, you almost have enough left over for a full-priced game.)

To add, the average buyer who gets told he needs a $120+ monster cable for "real hi def" see's the included HDMI cable as a big plus. Yes, it's sad people get taken like this but that's sales.......

eastmen · 04-Sep-2008, 05:12

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Originally Posted by RobertR1

To add, the average buyer who gets told he needs a $120+ monster cable for "real hi def" see's the included HDMI cable as a big plus. Yes, it's sad people get taken like this but that's sales.......

To be fair not everyone knows of monoprice and other like it.

Gubbi · 04-Sep-2008, 09:31

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Originally Posted by obonicus

I wonder if MS plans on getting rid of the Elite, or if it is really for folks who care about black/can't do math.

They should stick a higher quality DVD drive (less noise) in the Elite - and up the HD to something larger. They would still make money, but those two things would really add value. I'd pay anything for a lower noise level.

Cheers

PARANOiA · 04-Sep-2008, 09:48

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Originally Posted by Gubbi

They should stick a higher quality DVD drive (less noise) in the Elite - and up the HD to something larger. They would still make money, but those two things would really add value. I'd pay anything for a lower noise level.

Cheers

In a few months you will have that luxury on the Elite, given you can fully install games to the HDD. For those of us suckers with 20gb's however it's a little less nice.

I'm still hoping for cheapish HDD's, or at least some clever sucker on the net figuring out a way to make off-the-shelf drives work in ways which won't ban you from Live. I think this will be reasonably likely after the HDD installation is launched, since there will be much more demand for the space.

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silhouette Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 524	360 Price Cut - Official It is official now http://majornelson.com/archive/2008/...ow-us-199.aspx Arcade is 199$, 60 Gb Pro is 299$ and Elite is 399$. Very good prices for arcade and pro, not sure about Elite. __________________ I also speak for myself and only for myself...

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Laa-Yosh member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 7,509	The game is on. __________________ My opinions do not represent that of my employer blah blah etc.

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25-Aug-2008, 22:27	#203
MoHonRi Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 63	Limited Quantities and no rain checks. Maybe they are clearing out the stock of the arcade in preparation for a new SKU's?

26-Aug-2008, 03:17	#204
Brad Grenz Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,733	I noticed that, too. It applies to all three SKUs, but it's a weird disclosure for a permanent price cut. At least the rainchecks part is.

26-Aug-2008, 03:55	#205
eastmen Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 4,961	The 60 gig sale makes no sense in a close out though. That sku is permit and was just introduced

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AlphaWolf Specious Misanthrope Join Date: May 2003 Location: Treading Water Posts: 7,470	I've seen places put products on sale (for regular price ) and put a disclaimer like that. I wouldn't read too much into it.

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AzBat Agent of the Bat Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Alma, AR Posts: 3,637	More proof of the price drop... http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/26/b...60-price-cuts/ http://kotaku.com/5042272/best-buy-i...ice-cut-action Tommy McClain

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obonicus Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,938	No further mention of the super stealth inclusion of motion control, though.

27-Aug-2008, 19:05	#211
jb Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,636	So we have see adds in Best Buy, Kmart and RadioShack all with the same price structure as well as few SKU price screen grabs (with at least one of them being semi-legit), I think its safe to say this is pretty much confirmed as any rumor can be before the official news.

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DrJay24 Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Internet Posts: 1,293	They should have a smaller gap between models, say $79. This price plan really encourages the Arcade, which of course discourages the other revenues streams like XBL games and movie rentals. I hear the 120GB HD is now $149, making it a good pairing with the Arcade, which makes the Elite kind of a silly buy unless they add a game or two. They also need to either start including Wi-fi or slash the price of the add-on, even with the price drops the real cost of ownership can be much higher than the base unit price. Maybe Sony can respond with a $50 drop before X-mas.

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eastmen Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 4,961	The 60 gig drive is $100 with 3 months of live free and a head set. That puts it right at the pro's price point and is only lacking high def cables.

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RobertR1 Regular Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 5,051	About time! I don't know how well it'll work out in sept. I'll be more curious to see the Oct/nov/dec effect.

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obonicus Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,938	I wonder if MS plans on getting rid of the Elite, or if it is really for folks who care about black/can't do math.

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