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Bludd · 10-Dec-2007, 00:21

Sure thing, now Fox5 just have to update his post

Bouncing Zabaglione Bros. · 10-Dec-2007, 00:42

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Originally Posted by Fox5

I felt like so much of the season was a waste.

Even Tim Kring isn't happy with the first half of the second season.

Sobek · 10-Dec-2007, 02:53

That last episode was just plain uninsteresting.

PARANOiA · 10-Dec-2007, 05:09

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Originally Posted by Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.

And wouldn't a Peter vs Superman fight be a stalemate since Peter would just copy Superman's powers and therefore do anything he did?

Bludd · 10-Dec-2007, 12:20

Yes but Superman would have more experience since he's Superman, and all. Peter would have to emo himself through the process of learning the new powers.

I don't like the Peter character at all, an emo male nurse with copycat powers.

He kinda looks like the emo parody they did in Spider-man 3 but not in an ironic way.

_xxx_ · 10-Dec-2007, 13:44

Is Ali Larter still there? That would at least be something to make me watch it.

Bouncing Zabaglione Bros. · 10-Dec-2007, 14:06

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Originally Posted by PARANOiA

That was my point, although that episode is in series 2 and so hasn't aired in the UK yet.

Bouncing Zabaglione Bros. · 10-Dec-2007, 14:08

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Originally Posted by Bludd

Yes but Superman would have more experience since he's Superman, and all. Peter would have to emo himself through the process of learning the new powers.

I don't like the Peter character at all, an emo male nurse with copycat powers.

He kinda looks like the emo parody they did in Spider-man 3 but not in an ironic way.

He's obviously supposed to be the caring counterpoint to Sylar's sociopathic maniac. I do wish he'd be a bit more grown up though. The problem is that when characters start acting in stupid ways that no one would find credible, they cease to become sympathetic for the audience.

Dr Evil · 10-Dec-2007, 14:48

Healing the dead hurts the series, but also Hiro and timetravel in overall is a concept that is impossible to implement in a meaningful and logical way, why wouldn't Hiro just go back everytime something really nasty happens?

I'm enjoying the show, but the second season was quite weak compared to the first.

Peter woulnd't have a change against Superman though

Bludd · 10-Dec-2007, 14:56

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Originally Posted by _xxx_

Is Ali Larter still there? That would at least be something to make me watch it.

She is, but IMO her character is dumb (her superpower is multiple personalities? come on), and she isn't a very good actor. Don't click the spoiler if you don't want to be spoiled. Seriously.

Bouncing Zabaglione Bros. · 10-Dec-2007, 15:05

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Healing the dead hurts the series, but also Hiro and timetravel in overall is a concept that is impossible to implement in a meaningful and logical way, why wouldn't Hiro just go back everytime something really nasty happens?

That is the big problem with bringing the dead back and time travel. Nothing has a meaning or significance if it has no consequences. Characters can't die, no plot line can't be changed retrospecitively. It's easy to paint yourself into a corner where "magic" gets you out of it, and the audience don't care about anything because it can always be reversed.

For instance, all Hiro has to do is go back to when Sylar is a child (he already knows where his mother lives and presumably raised Sylar), and kill him before he gets any powers. Hey presto, no first series! But it's what anyone with any sense would do, so the audience always questions why Hiro doesn't do it. Is he just dumber than we are, so why should we find him a sympathetic character?

Bludd · 10-Dec-2007, 15:17

Yes, time travel is generally dumb. It is never really handled properly.

I kinda liked how they did it in Babylon 5 with the whole Valen thing, though. It was something that had existed from day 1 in the series, Babylon 4 had disappeared and Valen had been the Minbari's mysterious arrival 1000 years ago.

_xxx_ · 10-Dec-2007, 15:22

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She is, but IMO her character is dumb (her superpower is multiple personalities? come on), and she isn't a very good actor.

I don't care, she's hot

RussSchultz · 10-Dec-2007, 15:32

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She is, but IMO her character is dumb (her superpower is multiple personalities? come on

Actually, its explained in passing in season 2. Well, somewhat explained. THey never say what her 'power' is, but the split personalities thing is how she psychologically dealt with her powers, and wasn't her actual power.

It seems she has super strength, or agility, or whatever would give you 'I'm a bad ass' capabilities, and it would only come out with Jessica.

DJ12 · 10-Dec-2007, 15:34

Her power is super strength. The multiple personalities is nothing to do with it, she's just weird.

_xxx_ · 10-Dec-2007, 15:48

I can tell you where her powers are

Simon F · 10-Dec-2007, 16:14

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Originally Posted by epicstruggle

please use spoiler tags, some dont want to have the plot spoiled.

[spoiler] text, blah, blah, blah [/spoiler_] (remove _)

Indeed! Here in the UK we've only just had the final episode of the 1st series and I don't want the next series ruined!

DJ12 · 10-Dec-2007, 16:44

The writers have already seen to that

Bludd · 10-Dec-2007, 18:07

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Originally Posted by RussSchultz

Actually, its explained in passing in season 2. Well, somewhat explained. THey never say what her 'power' is, but the split personalities thing is how she psychologically dealt with her powers, and wasn't her actual power.

It seems she has super strength, or agility, or whatever would give you 'I'm a bad ass' capabilities, and it would only come out with Jessica.

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Her power is super strength. The multiple personalities is nothing to do with it, she's just weird.

She is still a boring and dumb character and I hate her.

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Originally Posted by DJ12

The writers have already seen to that

Slam dunk!

PARANOiA · 10-Dec-2007, 21:10

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Originally Posted by Simon F

Indeed! Here in the UK we've only just had the final episode of the 1st series and I don't want the next series ruined!

Wow - even in Australia we get the episodes a few days (sometimes a few hours) behind the States. I thought we were usually pretty slow.

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_xxx_ Naughty Boy! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 5,008	Is Ali Larter still there? That would at least be something to make me watch it. __________________ I have thought some of nature's journeymen had made men, and not made them well, they imitated humanity so abominably.

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Dr Evil Anas platyrhynchos Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Finland Posts: 4,361	Healing the dead hurts the series, but also Hiro and timetravel in overall is a concept that is impossible to implement in a meaningful and logical way, why wouldn't Hiro just go back everytime something really nasty happens? I'm enjoying the show, but the second season was quite weak compared to the first. Peter woulnd't have a change against Superman though __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpz9USr1RHg&feature=fvw

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_xxx_ Naughty Boy! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 5,008	I can tell you where her powers are __________________ I have thought some of nature's journeymen had made men, and not made them well, they imitated humanity so abominably.

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10-Dec-2007, 00:21	#26
Bludd Eric the Half-a-bee Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The cat detector van from the Ministry of Housinge Posts: 2,050	Sure thing, now Fox5 just have to update his post

10-Dec-2007, 12:20	#30
Bludd Eric the Half-a-bee Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The cat detector van from the Ministry of Housinge Posts: 2,050	Yes but Superman would have more experience since he's Superman, and all. Peter would have to emo himself through the process of learning the new powers. I don't like the Peter character at all, an emo male nurse with copycat powers. He kinda looks like the emo parody they did in Spider-man 3 but not in an ironic way.

10-Dec-2007, 15:17	#37
Bludd Eric the Half-a-bee Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The cat detector van from the Ministry of Housinge Posts: 2,050	Yes, time travel is generally dumb. It is never really handled properly. I kinda liked how they did it in Babylon 5 with the whole Valen thing, though. It was something that had existed from day 1 in the series, Babylon 4 had disappeared and Valen had been the Minbari's mysterious arrival 1000 years ago.

10-Dec-2007, 15:34	#40
DJ12 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,087	Her power is super strength. The multiple personalities is nothing to do with it, she's just weird.

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DJ12 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,087	The writers have already seen to that

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