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Old 13-Mar-2012, 15:42   #1
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Default Phil Harrison to lead MS Game Studios in Europe

Hope this is the right forum.

Phil Harrison replaces Molyneux. Really, no joke.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/article...-games-studios

I'm speechless but I like the idea. Any hopes for more AAA games thanks to this, you think?
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Old 13-Mar-2012, 15:46   #2
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This is a confusing move. Phil got out of Sony because he felt frustrated that they wouldn't listen to his ideas of the grand future. He went to Atari and didn't do anything with his grand vision. He went to Gaikai and hasn't really changed things. So what's he gonna do at MS? Give up and just run a conventional console service again? The opportunities he gave devs were pretty tremendous, but that somewhat goes against MS's typical approach, unless they are wanting Harrison to bring to MS what he brought to Sony regards supporting innovative software. But then why would Phil accept that position?
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Old 13-Mar-2012, 15:47   #3
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Maybe he just wants a high paying job?
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Old 13-Mar-2012, 15:55   #4
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This is a confusing move. Phil got out of Sony because he felt frustrated that they wouldn't listen to his ideas of the grand future. He went to Atari and didn't do anything with his grand vision. He went to Gaikai and hasn't really changed things. So what's he gonna do at MS? Give up and just run a conventional console service again? The opportunities he gave devs were pretty tremendous, but that somewhat goes against MS's typical approach, unless they are wanting Harrison to bring to MS what he brought to Sony regards supporting innovative software. But then why would Phil accept that position?
His ideas could match Microsoft's big Kinect push.
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Old 13-Mar-2012, 16:19   #5
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Interesting. Should be great for Mircosoft. I'm also curious to know exactly he's going to do at Mircosoft.
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Old 13-Mar-2012, 16:31   #6
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I like it.
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Old 13-Mar-2012, 19:20   #7
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This is a confusing move. Phil got out of Sony because he felt frustrated that they wouldn't listen to his ideas of the grand future. He went to Atari and didn't do anything with his grand vision. He went to Gaikai and hasn't really changed things. So what's he gonna do at MS? Give up and just run a conventional console service again? The opportunities he gave devs were pretty tremendous, but that somewhat goes against MS's typical approach, unless they are wanting Harrison to bring to MS what he brought to Sony regards supporting innovative software. But then why would Phil accept that position?
After spinning off so much internal talent -- and the likely risk Sony will be co-launching the PS4 the same year as the Xbox 3 -- MS needs some talent evaluator who can find smaller, up and coming studios like Rocksteady Studios (Batman Arkham Asylum/City) or even a High Moon Studios (TF: War for Cybertron) that with proper funding/support for their ideas can become affordable ways to snag exclusive titles because with a co-launch it will be much harder for MS to snag defacto exclusives like they did with the 360.

Probably a good move by MS if for no other reason Phil has done a similar job before, has a ton of industry contacts and experience, and I think big picture for MS and their European efforts this signifies a push to grow there over where they previously have been.
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Old 13-Mar-2012, 19:56   #8
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This is a confusing move. Phil got out of Sony because he felt frustrated that they wouldn't listen to his ideas of the grand future. He went to Atari and didn't do anything with his grand vision. He went to Gaikai and hasn't really changed things. So what's he gonna do at MS? Give up and just run a conventional console service again? The opportunities he gave devs were pretty tremendous, but that somewhat goes against MS's typical approach, unless they are wanting Harrison to bring to MS what he brought to Sony regards supporting innovative software. But then why would Phil accept that position?
From what I understand, Phil was frustrated that his ideas were not adopted and funded properly outside of Europe.

Perhaps MS is offering to listen and fully fund and support his initiatives.

Regardless of the broader impact, if nothing else, this move should really help to improve MS' chances in Europe.

Great move by MS; he should be a big improvement over Peter in identifying and cultivating European dev support.
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Old 13-Mar-2012, 20:08   #9
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I had no idea that Peter Molyneux had left Lionhead!
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Old 13-Mar-2012, 21:37   #10
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Congrats ! I have always thought Shuhei lacks Harrison's creative sparks. It's a pity Sony hasn't found anyone who rival Phil's vision. Shuhei sounds more like a traffic coordinator and a workhorse/execution type. Can't wait to hear more about Phil's new ideas.
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Old 13-Mar-2012, 21:40   #11
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Im predicting very bad things for Xbox Next if you dont like casual stuff

MS has been very conservative what they publish. Basically only commercial hits. If a new hardcore IP does not sell 5M+ it will never get a next game..
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Old 14-Mar-2012, 09:38   #12
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He went to Atari and didn't do anything with his grand vision.
It's not that easy to make zombie dance and sing.

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I had no idea that Peter Molyneux had left Lionhead!
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Sony should hire J Allard in retaliation.
My sense is that he's burned out. Whether it's because of Sinofsky's bulldozer or by the amount of stuff that was on his shoulders, I'd be surprised to see him reappear with Sony.

That said I didn't expect Phil@MS either.
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Old 14-Mar-2012, 20:24   #13
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Wanna hug?
Nope. Don't care. Just surprised at the news. Maybe Lionhead will get back to making a non-Kinect Fable game. Pretty sure they have a lot of talent over there without Peter to keep making good games.
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Maybe Lionhead will get back to making a non-Kinect Fable game.
Pretty likely. It's Peter who pushed for the Kinect version as far as the rumor goes.
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Old 15-Mar-2012, 13:44   #15
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Outside of Peter Moore, Phil has been the only figure head I actually liked. Others like Kaz, Tretton, Reggie, and especially Don have never been able to speak to the public the same way IMO. Of course this doesn't say anything about how well they do their job, I just hope we'll see more of Phil at the E3 press conference and less of Don now.

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This is a confusing move. Phil got out of Sony because he felt frustrated that they wouldn't listen to his ideas of the grand future. He went to Atari and didn't do anything with his grand vision. He went to Gaikai and hasn't really changed things. So what's he gonna do at MS? Give up and just run a conventional console service again?
Maybe he had signed a non-compete with Sony and was just waiting it out?

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Im predicting very bad things for Xbox Next if you dont like casual stuff

MS has been very conservative what they publish. Basically only commercial hits. If a new hardcore IP does not sell 5M+ it will never get a next game..
I think MS recently dedicated $300 million to core games, so hopefully we see some thing things.

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Pretty likely. It's Peter who pushed for the Kinect version as far as the rumor goes.
Peter said it himself, that's no rumor.
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Old 13-Mar-2012, 16:48   #16
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He's not replacing where Peter left according to Major Nelson..

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Sony should hire J Allard in retaliation.
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If that happened MS would have no other option other then to fire Balmer and hire The KEN.
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If that happened MS would have no other option other then to fire Balmer and hire The KEN.


I think Ken would rather die first, but it would be a great pickup by MS!
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If that happened MS would have no other option other then to fire Balmer and hire The KEN.
If Kuturagi joined MS, with his crazy schemes and MS' deep pockets, he would develop a console to end all others. One which is powered by strange fire and when turned on, would split the space-time continuum and translate the mind and consciousness of it's hosts into the para-meta-physical world of celestial god-hood....

... then would the universe retreat unto the singularity preceding the big bang, and the gods would sing the song to end all existance

*cowers in the corner shivering in terror*
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If Kuturagi joined MS, with his crazy schemes and MS' deep pockets, he would develop a console to end all others. One which is powered by strange fire and when turned on, would split the space-time continuum and translate the mind and consciousness of it's hosts into the para-meta-physical world of celestial god-hood....

... then would the universe retreat unto the singularity preceding the big bang, and the gods would sing the song to end all existance

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Don't YOU want to be the controller, Scott?
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Doubtful thatgamecompany would sign an exclusive deal with Microsoft. They'll go multiplatform or they'll stay with Sony. Xbla's publishing requirements may lead to them self publishing just on PS3 and Steam.
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In return, would be funny if Sony hire J Allard, think he left MS too after MS banned his concept for the dual screen tablet thing right? Sony still got some great game developers like ND that cares about social networking, think someone asked ND what they want to see for next gen hardwares, they said better social networking or something.
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