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Cartoon Corpse · 15-Mar-2006, 21:25

150G raptor.

120G left.

only installed some newer games on it so far....farcry, HL2, Boiling Point, vice city.

i went to check analyze in defrag...and like the tiny used portion is 80-90% RED! saying "you need to defragment"

am i doing something wrong? how is a 'new' (empty) disk not getting used in a contiguous manner?

Deathlike2 · 15-Mar-2006, 23:29

I would normally think it should... beats me.

Should be a quick defrag though... maybe.

maaoouud · 16-Mar-2006, 01:31

You are not doing anything wrong. It's very annoying though.

I recommend you defrag (one or two times depending on defragger) after installing a game.

Rodéric · 16-Mar-2006, 09:45

Because you're using a sucky OS with a lame File System not even capable of limiting file fragmentation...
(There are file systems able to limit fragmentation by huge margins, but FAT/NTFS aren't those...)

A way to reduce fragmentation is to have two partitions, one with the OS another with your data, so that when you install things, temp files are copied to the OS drive while you install on the other; such limiting fragmentation opportunities.

_xxx_ · 16-Mar-2006, 10:42

And use a fixed size swap file.

Cartoon Corpse · 16-Mar-2006, 14:45

i defragged. all blue now....that is weird. like the os is being busier (fragmenting the writes) than it has to be.

anyway i was wondering if a new disk wasn't actually MT. but was full of 'test' data or something...that was only pseudo present (doesn't show as used space)

maybe it has "patriot act" written all over it!

15-Mar-2006, 21:25	#1
Cartoon Corpse Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,181	how come my new disk needs defragging? 150G raptor. 120G left. only installed some newer games on it so far....farcry, HL2, Boiling Point, vice city. i went to check analyze in defrag...and like the tiny used portion is 80-90% RED! saying "you need to defragment" am i doing something wrong? how is a 'new' (empty) disk not getting used in a contiguous manner? __________________ De omnibus dubitandum --Rene Descartes

16-Mar-2006, 09:45	#4
Rodéric a.k.a. Ingenu Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Apsley, U.K. Posts: 2,727	Because you're using a sucky OS with a lame File System not even capable of limiting file fragmentation... (There are file systems able to limit fragmentation by huge margins, but FAT/NTFS aren't those...) A way to reduce fragmentation is to have two partitions, one with the OS another with your data, so that when you install things, temp files are copied to the OS drive while you install on the other; such limiting fragmentation opportunities. __________________ So many things to do, and yet so little time to spend...

16-Mar-2006, 10:42	#5
_xxx_ Naughty Boy! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 5,008	And use a fixed size swap file. __________________ I have thought some of nature's journeymen had made men, and not made them well, they imitated humanity so abominably.

16-Mar-2006, 14:45	#6
Cartoon Corpse Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,181	i defragged. all blue now....that is weird. like the os is being busier (fragmenting the writes) than it has to be. anyway i was wondering if a new disk wasn't actually MT. but was full of 'test' data or something...that was only pseudo present (doesn't show as used space) maybe it has "patriot act" written all over it! __________________ De omnibus dubitandum --Rene Descartes

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15-Mar-2006, 23:29	#2
Deathlike2 Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 542	I would normally think it should... beats me. Should be a quick defrag though... maybe.

16-Mar-2006, 01:31	#3
maaoouud Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 157	You are not doing anything wrong. It's very annoying though. I recommend you defrag (one or two times depending on defragger) after installing a game.

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