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Cornsnake 04-Jun-2011 12:16

I'm not subscribed right now, and it's available in the store as a download. So I guess I can active it that way.

-tkf- 04-Jun-2011 12:48

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Originally Posted by DJ12 (Post 1556208)
Do you have to activate it?

I already have PSN+ but when I click on the PSN+ icon it takes me straight to it not a download page like the welcome back package (which now seems to have disappeared from UK PSN :roll: )

This confused me a abit as well, i bought the DLC pass for Noire, had an error and the "buy" button disappeared, however all the downloads were suddenly "free" and i could get them.
Same with PS+, once you activate it it disappears , you can check under account management and activce services to see if itīs active and when it runs out. Plus you get a + sign next to the time in the upper right corner.

Npl 04-Jun-2011 13:33

from what I understood, the 30 days PSN+ offer should be valid forever.
I did try to get my free games, but I somehow happened to "cheat" PSN to only giving me 1 free game, I chosen Wipeout as freebie aswell and it aint showing up anywhere while the corresponding WB offer disappeared :shock:
Worked fine on my primary Euro Account, so I still got 3 PS3 games and 2 PSP games (apparently dint buy anything PSP on my Eur Account).

Stupid question, but are free PSN+ offers getting diasbled once subscription runs out? I dint think so and the Eur PSN doesnt say anything, but the US PSN says content will be disabled when PSN+ is gone?

Shifty Geezer 04-Jun-2011 13:43

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Originally Posted by Npl (Post 1556222)
Stupid question, but are free PSN+ offers getting diasbled once subscription runs out? I dint think so and the Eur PSN doesnt say anything, but the US PSN says content will be disabled when PSN+ is gone?

Yes. PS+ (BTW people, it's PlayStation Plus, not PlayStation Network Plus, so lose the PSN+ already :p) is a content services offering a mix of discounts on content you purchase, and effectually free rentals. Anything that's free is lost when the subscription lapses, whereas anything you've bought, regardless of how much discount there is (though not 100% as that's not a purchase), is yours to keep.

Incidentally, how does your PS3 know when your subscription expires? Does it have a record internally, or is it an online check? If that latter, presumably not connecting to the internet with your PS3 would mean you could keep free content until such time as you do go online and your status is updated.

patsu 04-Jun-2011 15:15

If the DRM is public key based, then the check can be done off-line.

Arwin 04-Jun-2011 17:53

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Originally Posted by Cornsnake (Post 1556207)
Does anyone know if the 30 days free PS+ offer will expire if you don't use it soon? I would prefer not using until it comes with some stuff I actually want.

I'm not sure but I thought it was actually only active for June. After June it is going to be worthless. I'm fairly sure I read that, though not sure where - could be the sony FAQ on the subject.

Cornsnake 04-Jun-2011 18:39

I found this on the Playstation blog.

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Q: How long do I have to get into the PlayStation Store and receive my content for Welcome Back?
A: Access to the Welcome Back content will be expiring on July 3. Once this date has passed, the Welcome Back section in the PlayStation Store will be removed.
I guess that means you'll only have the PS+ content until July 3rd. Regardless of when you activate it.

Npl 04-Jun-2011 19:00

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Originally Posted by Shifty Geezer (Post 1556227)
Yes. PS+ (BTW people, it's PlayStation Plus, not PlayStation Network Plus, so lose the PSN+ already :p) is a content services offering a mix of discounts on content you purchase, and effectually free rentals. Anything that's free is lost when the subscription lapses, whereas anything you've bought, regardless of how much discount there is (though not 100% as that's not a purchase), is yours to keep.

Hmm, I buckled and bought 12+3 months PSN+ PS+ in hope of getting and keeping those freebies. :oops:

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Originally Posted by Shifty Geezer (Post 1556227)
Incidentally, how does your PS3 know when your subscription expires? Does it have a record internally, or is it an online check? If that latter, presumably not connecting to the internet with your PS3 would mean you could keep free content until such time as you do go online and your status is updated.

if you keep it offline you might be able to turn back the clock (literally), unless Sony thought of better ways to expire your certificates.

Xenus 04-Jun-2011 19:40

I don't think that's right cornsnake I think. All that means is you only have till July 3rd to activate it. Not that it will expire then.

Cornsnake 04-Jun-2011 20:12

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Originally Posted by Xenus (Post 1556309)
I don't think that's right cornsnake I think. All that means is you only have till July 3rd to activate it. Not that it will expire then.

Hopefully. There's no reason for me to activate it now anyway, since there's nothing on offer that I like.

Arwin 04-Jun-2011 23:32

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Originally Posted by Cornsnake (Post 1556317)
Hopefully. There's no reason for me to activate it now anyway, since there's nothing on offer that I like.

Yeah, I can't find anything about that now in the FAQ either. Here it just says that it starts from the moment you activate it, for 30 days.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/06/03/welcome-back/

-tkf- 05-Jun-2011 13:27

Confirmed that you can download the free games from all the accounts/regions you have.

goonergaz 05-Jun-2011 15:20

This is a major PITA TBH!

Firstly I don't seem to have the option for the PSP games (even tho I purchased PSP LBP via PSN).

Secondly I got a free copy of infamous and wasn't 100% whether to pick Wipeout or Dead Nation but it seems I can have neither now as my 'free games' are not listed - seems like a 'one time' offer?

Thirdly PSN games don't work with disk game saves - so much as I'd love to declutter infamous & burnout - I can't!

Forthly(!) I went to the US store and managed to fudge the UK mess by buying Dead Nation, but because I didn't d/l straight away and logged off the store and then back in it seems my free game went AWOL so I had to "rebuy" Dead Nation as my 2nd free game!

Fifthly(!!) I seem to have PSP games on the US store, but IIRC you can only have your PSP registered to one account

I think that's everything lol I won't go into the hassle of having to reset all my (anbd my kids) accounts via email, what a PITA that was - still, at least I managed to snag Wipeout off my daughters freebie list!

-tkf- 05-Jun-2011 16:46

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Originally Posted by goonergaz (Post 1556485)
This is a major PITA TBH!

Firstly I don't seem to have the option for the PSP games (even tho I purchased PSP LBP via PSN).

Secondly I got a free copy of infamous and wasn't 100% whether to pick Wipeout or Dead Nation but it seems I can have neither now as my 'free games' are not listed - seems like a 'one time' offer?

Thirdly PSN games don't work with disk game saves - so much as I'd love to declutter infamous & burnout - I can't!

Forthly(!) I went to the US store and managed to fudge the UK mess by buying Dead Nation, but because I didn't d/l straight away and logged off the store and then back in it seems my free game went AWOL so I had to "rebuy" Dead Nation as my 2nd free game!

Fifthly(!!) I seem to have PSP games on the US store, but IIRC you can only have your PSP registered to one account

I think that's everything lol I won't go into the hassle of having to reset all my (anbd my kids) accounts via email, what a PITA that was - still, at least I managed to snag Wipeout off my daughters freebie list!

The Save games is not unexpected and. Unless you think that the programmers expected people to buy 2 copies of their games. Annoying.. yes :-)

Anyway, read this and you might get lucky:

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Q: I no longer have the option to choose my free Welcome Back games. What can I do?
A: If you navigate away from the Welcome Back section of the store without choosing your free games or exit the store completely you may need to follow the below in order to choose and download your free games.
On your PlayStation 3 or PlayStation Portable navigate to the PlayStation Network icon on the XMB
Log into your PlayStation Network account and choose Account Management > Transaction Management > Services List
Choose “PlayStation Network Promotions” from the list of services displayed
Select either “PS3 Free Games” or “PSP Free Games” and then choose “Select Content”
The text above worked for me on the German (Hustle kings) and EU store (LBP), US has a completely different system.

Npl 05-Jun-2011 16:50

thanks tfk, that did help getting my remaining free PS3 game. (in the US account the promo is called a bit different but worked the same)

Is is just me or does every second press of a button result in a network error in PSN today?

Nesh 05-Jun-2011 16:53

http://www.handheldgamingblog.com/lu...endos-website/

Errr...now Nintendo? Could be BS though

goonergaz 05-Jun-2011 17:22

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Originally Posted by -tkf- (Post 1556499)
The Save games is not unexpected and. Unless you think that the programmers expected people to buy 2 copies of their games. Annoying.. yes :-)

Anyway, read this and you might get lucky:



The text above worked for me on the German (Hustle kings) and EU store (LBP), US has a completely different system.

Thanks. However WRT the game saves I think they should relax the 'protection' on them - it's a pain, if I love a game I may like to buy it digitally so I can keep it forever or just find space on my shelf (I'd love digital versions of Uncharted and Red Dead Redemption) however I can't because of this stupid save system.

Arwin 05-Jun-2011 17:28

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Originally Posted by goonergaz (Post 1556509)
Thanks. However WRT the game saves I think they should relax the 'protection' on them - it's a pain, if I love a game I may like to buy it digitally so I can keep it forever or just find space on my shelf (I'd love digital versions of Uncharted and Red Dead Redemption) however I can't because of this stupid save system.

It's not so much a protection issue, but that disc based and download versions of games just have a different game code internally. Save games are linked to that code and so they don't recognise each other. It would be nice if they could find a solution for that though.

-tkf- 05-Jun-2011 18:08

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Originally Posted by goonergaz (Post 1556509)
if I love a game I may like to buy it digitally so I can keep it forever or just find space on my shelf (I'd love digital versions of Uncharted and Red Dead Redemption) however I can't because of this stupid save system.

I agree on the save system but i think this is an extraordinary situation that might actually make some of the developers think about the issues. In regards to keeping them forever, the disc is best for that :)

goonergaz 05-Jun-2011 19:05

argh, the advice works however I see no PSP games :S

were there PSP games for the EU store?

Xenus 05-Jun-2011 19:10

There were PSP games for every region. Are you trying to download from the PSP or the PS# as I'm not sure if the PS3 recognizes it. Also from what I heard it only seems like you can get PSP games from one region as it appears when you link your PSP with one account it delinks it from the others.

goonergaz 05-Jun-2011 20:26

odd, the games are on the US store but not EU store - yet my PSP is linked to my UK profile!?

Npl 05-Jun-2011 20:32

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Originally Posted by goonergaz (Post 1556535)
odd, the games are on the US store but not EU store - yet my PSP is linked to my UK profile!?

you sure it was that way before PSN went down?

goonergaz 05-Jun-2011 23:39

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Originally Posted by Npl (Post 1556537)
you sure it was that way before PSN went down?

I've no reason to link the PSP to the US account, all my content for the PSP is for UK - I bought LBP and since then haven't even contemplated messing with the PSP account setup...interestingly I just did a bit of messing about, my Minis work (and I can xfer from my PS3 UK account content) - however I did buy a US mini and even when logged into that account it won't allow me to xfer to my PSP due to restrictions...seems conclusive to me that the PSP is on my UK account!

Just updating the firmware on it but need the batt top xharge up a bit then I will go to the store via my PSP to see what happens.

BTW, if anyone has a US account with funds I can recommend Cubixx, for $1 it's a steal!

goonergaz 06-Jun-2011 10:09

eventually got them via my PSP :)


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