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neliz 08-May-2007 07:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by serenity (Post 983036)
Some 2900XT photos, I can see only 2 of them cause I am not a registered member there.

Tasty.. R600 with 07-10 Datestamp .. printed on the metal edge of the package and not on top of the die as were used to.. revision A13.

The bottom right corner in this shot:
http://my.ocworkbench.com/bbs/attach...0&d=1178590395

is the right corner in the roden shot
http://vgacentral.files.wordpress.co...ati_r600_1.jpg

The package itself looks much healthier...

Arty 08-May-2007 08:23

http://i18.tinypic.com/677o8xf_th

http://i14.tinypic.com/628znt0_th

epicstruggle 08-May-2007 08:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by serenity (Post 983080)

Thats a lot better than the videos that floated a few weeks ago.

Lux_ 08-May-2007 08:53

First picture: the level of detail is really impressive. But I can't believe the left edge of the chin is blocky... did they run out of polygons or what?

stevem 08-May-2007 09:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by neliz (Post 983074)
Tasty.. R600 with 07-10 Datestamp .. printed on the metal edge of the package on not on top of the die as were used to..

Is that doubling as the shim?

flopper 08-May-2007 09:20

Jawed,

with the intel as of now and in a more english without to much tech lingo since I have no references to those,
what does the difference between Nvidias and ati“s cards really do in performance.
We can talk, dx9 and xp or dx10 and vista.
Open gl and d3d.

I understand that ati did something that seems more future oriented, longer shaders effiency and more dx10.

I am just a user of the cards, overklock a little and also read forums as these just for fun even if vector and tmu and such words brings little reference and meaning for me.

If you would put what is known and guess as of now, and translate and calculate what that means for games that are of now and are coming, I be interested to hear how you think the cards will do.

mao5 08-May-2007 09:29

3DMARK06: 8800Ultra(default) VS. 2900XT(oc)

http://r800.blogspot.com/2007/05/3dm...vs-2900xt.html

Lux_ 08-May-2007 09:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by mao5 (Post 983112)
3DMARK06

He probably overclocked until reached desired result :wink:. What I find interesting is that 2900XT has relatively higher SM3 score (SM2 score is 267 points lower, but SM3 score is 364 points higher, 5645 vs 6009). Or alternatively - it's just noise...

AnarchX 08-May-2007 10:04

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/848...900xt01zj0.jpg

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/980...900xt12hu3.jpg
16 memory chips...

http://forum.coolaler.com/showthread.php?t=152864 More inside!

mao5 08-May-2007 10:10

SCDA PIC Compared :R600 VS. G80 VS. R580

http://r800.blogspot.com/2007/05/scd...0-vs-r580.html

trinibwoy 08-May-2007 11:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by mao5 (Post 983124)
SCDA PIC Compared :R600 VS. G80 VS. R580

http://r800.blogspot.com/2007/05/scd...0-vs-r580.html

Yaaay more single screenshot performance numbers!

Cuthalu 08-May-2007 12:01

That wire tray floor looks bad with R600.

Razor1 08-May-2007 12:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by trinibwoy (Post 983135)
Yaaay more single screenshot performance numbers!


well 3dmark really doesn't mean much, but at least its better then the game screenshots lol.

Look at the detail on the ground, its all blurred out in the r600 supposed screenshot again :/, looks better for AA, but AF is shot to hell or something is going on.

nAo 08-May-2007 12:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cuthalu (Post 983139)
That wire tray floor looks bad with R600.

it just looks different to me, not bad (different lighting)

Sobek 08-May-2007 12:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cuthalu (Post 983139)
That wire tray floor looks bad with R600.

The mspaint-style compression isn't helping one bit... to me all the pictures look terrible because of it. It's hard to tell if the shitty compression is fudding the edges or if there's really a difference :mad:

http://i18.tinypic.com/677o8xf_th

Looks like she's about to throw up :razz: Seriously, where's the Dangerous Curves Ruby? She was hot...

trinibwoy 08-May-2007 12:34

Why are they comparing IQ on the X1900GT to 8800GTX :?:

Arnold Beckenbauer 08-May-2007 12:40

http://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulle...74#post5474374
Click on "spoiler" to see all graphics.

8 SPs per SM (streaming multi-processor), 512 threads per SM???

Why is the SFU "outside"?

Hm, is it possible, that it's G80?

neliz 08-May-2007 12:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by trinibwoy (Post 983155)
Why are they comparing IQ on the X1900GT to 8800GTX :?:

that's just some screenshots thrown together on different cards. it's also there to show the "bugs" on g80/r600 in relation to the older hardware...

Dalton Sleeper 08-May-2007 12:52

All those SC pics look like ****, like they've been blurred and then sharpened a few times.

mao5 08-May-2007 13:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by trinibwoy (Post 983135)
Yaaay more single screenshot performance numbers!

if I told you the GTX card was extremely oced? Also pls pay attention to the pic quality of GTX. btw, what's the current retail price of GTX? if you could tell me, I will be very appreciated.

mao5 08-May-2007 13:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cuthalu (Post 983139)
That wire tray floor looks bad with R600.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razor1 (Post 983141)
well 3dmark really doesn't mean much, but at least its better then the game screenshots lol.

Look at the detail on the ground, its all blurred out in the r600 supposed screenshot again :/, looks better for AA, but AF is shot to hell or something is going on.

Hey, two guys, you'd better play SCDA by yourself, when fisher reached the top of
Shanghai mansion, it's raining heavily, with strong wind, so the ground detail is changing every second.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nAo (Post 983147)
it just looks different to me, not bad (different lighting)

correct.

Quote:

Originally Posted by trinibwoy (Post 983155)
Why are they comparing IQ on the X1900GT to 8800GTX :?:

I don't have too much time, you can compare IQ between 2900XT and 8800 GTX for me, thank you.

KTE 08-May-2007 13:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by mao5 (Post 983124)
SCDA PIC Compared :R600 VS. G80 VS. R580

http://r800.blogspot.com/2007/05/scd...0-vs-r580.html

The guy used the older drivers, same as XS guy Denny. Use the 8.37 they are much much better believe me. :wink:

Plus be careful with that. Denny doesn't have a R600XT 512MB GDDR3, but he has an OEM workstation version 1GB GDDR4. :wink:

And Brent meant a good thing for the R600, not a bad thing. :wink:

Just hold on.

Put it this way, and I've posted this elsewhere too. In mid-November on exactly the same platform and test bench (MB is nV 680i and thus optimized to some extent for for nV) the G80GTX posted a 11500 3DM06 score at best with the QX6700.

The HD2900XT 512MB GDDR3 beats that on the same platform with pre-release drivers.

The difference between the two cards is what Kombatant will also know- R600XT is a massive OC'er, better than G80GTX and G80U and PCIe frequency scaling is also very good.

itsmydamnation 08-May-2007 13:28

this thread is getting worse then cartman waiting for the wii,

only 6 more days till r600.....


what time UTC is the NDA no more?

mao5 08-May-2007 13:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by KTE (Post 983174)
The guy used the older drivers, same as XS guy Denny. Use the 8.37 they are much much better believe me. :wink:

Plus be careful with that. Denny doesn't have a R600XT 512MB GDDR3, but he has an OEM workstation version 1GB GDDR4. :wink:

And Brent meant a good thing for the R600, not a bad thing. :wink:

Just hold on.

Put it this way, and I've posted this elsewhere too. In mid-November on exactly the same platform and test bench (MB is nV 680i and thus optimized to some extent for for nV) the G80GTX posted a 11500 3DM06 score at best with the QX6700.

The HD2900XT 512MB GDDR3 beats that on the same platform with pre-release drivers.

The difference between the two cards is what Kombatant will also know- R600XT is a massive OC'er, better than G80GTX and G80U and PCIe frequency scaling is also very good.

I do believe you, buddy.

aeryon 08-May-2007 13:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by KTE (Post 983174)
The guy used the older drivers, same as XS guy Denny. Use the 8.37 they are much much better believe me. :wink:

Plus be careful with that. Denny doesn't have a R600XT 512MB GDDR3, but he has an OEM workstation version 1GB GDDR4. :wink:

And Brent meant a good thing for the R600, not a bad thing. :wink:

Just hold on.

Put it this way, and I've posted this elsewhere too. In mid-November on exactly the same platform and test bench (MB is nV 680i and thus optimized to some extent for for nV) the G80GTX posted a 11500 3DM06 score at best with the QX6700.

The HD2900XT 512MB GDDR3 beats that on the same platform with pre-release drivers.

The difference between the two cards is what Kombatant will also know- R600XT is a massive OC'er, better than G80GTX and G80U and PCIe frequency scaling is also very good.

waouuu impressive ! kudos ATI/AMD for bringing better product than 6 months old G80 with better process :roll:
well if it's true, I hope ATI/AMD will enjoy these coming 3 months of performance lead because when G92 will arrive, R600/650 will look like a toy, same way as R580 was a toy compared to G80...


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