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Silent_Buddha 04-May-2007 20:11

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Originally Posted by AnarchX (Post 981503)
Specviewperf v9

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http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=143104

3DMark-protection?

Is it true what that poster said on that forum? That those scores are better than a Quadroplex? I usually don't pay much attention to industry OGL benches.

Regards,
SB

Lux_ 04-May-2007 20:13

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Originally Posted by AnarchX (Post 981503)
Specviewperf v9

What resolution?

For comparison, 8800 GTX is half as fast ( 2560x1600 - E6300 2.80GHz): http://www.mvktech.net/content/view/3552/39/1/9/

AnarchX 04-May-2007 20:23

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Originally Posted by Lux_ (Post 981515)
What resolution?

I do not know, but if you looking at the results @ dailytech, it should be higher than 1280x1024.

satein 04-May-2007 20:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lux_ (Post 981515)
What resolution?

For comparison, 8800 GTX is half as fast ( 2560x1600 - E6300 2.80GHz): http://www.mvktech.net/content/view/3552/39/1/9/

If you look into the picture posting score, it stated that the monitor is 17" CMC something.... So, I would suggest this is a score on testing at 1280x1024 resolution.

Sound_Card 04-May-2007 20:31

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Originally Posted by Sampsa
I will stick with NDA unlike some other people who attended Tunis event and already posted pretty much all the details of the card. There are also quite alot false information floating around the internet regarding Radeon HD 2900 XT.. main source is one particular site which is not so hard to guess.

Anyway, there is actually quite alot overclocking headroom in R600 GPU and AMD GPU Clock Tool seems to be working just fine. I had a problem with Powerstrip beta-version which was limited to driver's limits. Now we just need to wait for new version of ATITool which brings voltage adjustments for R600 and I'll run tests under dry ice cooling. Hopefully that'll be next week.

PS. 1000/1000 MHz clock speeds at techPowerUp!'s screenshot are pretty modest :fact:

Kombatant, nice to see you again
That put a good smile on my face.:razz:

Razor1 04-May-2007 20:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silent_Buddha (Post 981514)
Is it true what that poster said on that forum? That those scores are better than a Quadroplex? I usually don't pay much attention to industry OGL benches.

Regards,
SB

not a quardoplex lol, quadro fx, which yes better then last gen gf7 quadro fx, not the g8's.

Cuthalu 04-May-2007 20:36

If 1000/1000MHz is "pretty modest", this might fare well against G80 when oc'd. :grin:

Natoma 04-May-2007 20:40

If 1000/1000 is pretty modest, one wonders why AMD didn't clock the R600 higher. Maybe we've been mislead on the true default clocks of the XT and XTX. :lol:

nutball 04-May-2007 20:41

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Originally Posted by Natoma (Post 981530)
If 1000/1000 is pretty modest, one wonders why AMD didn't clock the R600 higher. Maybe we've been mislead on the true default clocks of the XT and XTX. :lol:

or mislead on the overclocks.

neliz 04-May-2007 20:55

Well, if we go back a couple of years we heard about the 1ghz mark first for the r600.

If we like to compare.. the 2900XT will be for R600 what the 1800XL was for the R520. So Getting up with a Ghz XTX sounds much better for a fighting chance.. It would also make the pricepoint of the XT logical.. it's yesteryears XL.
And with no overclock utils available for DT, they were indeed misled by whoever thought of it an XTX at XT clocks with no way to push it...

Sound_Card 04-May-2007 21:03

Wizard hit 1ghz on stock volts which would most definitely imply hitting that clock is somewhat moddest.:grin:

3dilettante 04-May-2007 21:40

A few boards that may or may not have hit 1 GHz isn't enough to say R600 can reliably hit that clock speed.

Considering the limited number of examples, it's possible those high clocking chips happen to be of a small number of chips with good leakage and power characteristics.

R600 as a design may be artificially capped by an AMD-imposed TDP limit, or the bin splits above 750 MHz are not acceptable within the power envelope.

vertex_shader 04-May-2007 22:13

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Originally Posted by AnarchX (Post 981503)
Specviewperf v9
IMG]http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2517/x2900xt102401319944ik7.png[/IMG] IMG]http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5362/x2900xt10240231a133qw8.png[/IMG]
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=143104

3DMark-protection?

HD2900XT 1024mb gddr4? :wink:

flippin_waffles 04-May-2007 22:16

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Originally Posted by vertex_shader (Post 981570)
HD2900XT 1024mb gddr4 :wink:

I was just going to say the same. That's not the first screenshot i've seen with 1024mb ddr4 specs. Curious.

[edit]

Maybe crossfire???

XMAN26 04-May-2007 22:29

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Originally Posted by mao5 (Post 981390)


Your are seeing something that isn't there other than the fact that both ATI shots have much more sunshine in them than the Nvidia one does. Go outside ona nice sunny day and you will get shadows like in the ATI pics, go out on cloudy days and you'll get shadows more in line with the Nvidia screenie. And the grass looks the same to me in all three shots. and that is after staring at them each for the last 5 minutes.

wishiknew 04-May-2007 22:29

... so the r600 has p4 syndrome.

Silent_Buddha 04-May-2007 22:57

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Originally Posted by wishiknew (Post 981583)
... so the r600 has p4 syndrome.

Only in the case that you also assume that the G80 has Athlon XP (not 64) syndrome. :wink: After all it appears they both perform similar just that one is Designed for higher clocks at that performance.

Regards,
SB

PSU-failure 04-May-2007 23:02

Does anyone have seen anything susceptible to be an NDA break on XS forums?

It has been down for a moment...

no-X 04-May-2007 23:04

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Originally Posted by wishiknew (Post 981583)
... so the r600 has p4 syndrome.

Really? G80s ALUs are clocked at 1500MHz. R600s at 750MHz...

nelg 04-May-2007 23:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sound_Card (Post 981540)
Wizard hit 1ghz on stock volts which would most definitely imply hitting that clock is somewhat moddest.:grin:

Taken with the likelihood that someone who's claim to fame is that of an overclocker, receiving a cheery picked card for that various purpose would not be to much of a stretch.

Anarchist4000 04-May-2007 23:11

If the cards are hitting those clocks can't we safely assume that the 2900XT is using clocks that keep it in the 225W power envelope? Not that it was clocked to the max to keep pace with the 8800GTX.

flippin_waffles 04-May-2007 23:14

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Originally Posted by PSU-failure (Post 981590)
Does anyone have seen anything susceptible to be an NDA break on XS forums?

It has been down for a moment...

Yeah, regarding that, i've had nothing but problems with that site since they switched servers. So it's really nothing new as far as I can tell.

PSU-failure 04-May-2007 23:16

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Originally Posted by Sound_Card (Post 981540)
Wizard hit 1ghz on stock volts which would most definitely imply hitting that clock is somewhat moddest.:grin:

Take note of the smilie used, what does this tiny creature points out?

Maybe it's the NDA... :idea:

Twinkie 04-May-2007 23:28

1Ghz sure does sound nice. (possible XT version that comes with 1024mb GDDR4 ram?)

Things are getting more interesting by the day!

w0mbat 04-May-2007 23:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by PSU-failure (Post 981590)
Does anyone have seen anything susceptible to be an NDA break on XS forums?

It has been down for a moment...

Yes, there was a Thread with benches 8800TGTX OC vs. HD2900 XT OC which broke the NDA (8800GTX was faster all the time).


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