Beyond3D Forum - The NEXT LAST R600 Rumours & Speculation Thread

I propose a new naming scheme:

Name: Viseon... oh come on.

Number: (represents generation) abbreviated G1

Status: (place in the food chain) first letter represents segment, second letter represents place in that segment. First letters: L,M,X (low, medium, Xtreme!!!)(note higher letter = better). Second letters: R,S,T. (higher letter = better).

Sample card lineup:

AMD Viseon G1.0 XT
AMD Viseon G1.0 XS
AMD Viseon G1.0 XR
...
AMD Viseon G1.0 MT
etc...
...
AMD Viseon G1.0 LT
etc...

Refreshes denoted with decimal:
AMD Viseon G1.1 XT

Generational leaps get a new number:
AMD Viseon G2.0 XT

Hurray for a short, consistent, logical naming system.

Cuthalu

23-Apr-2007 05:58

That's very good naming scheme. However, it's way too logical, good and simple to be used by AMD (or nVidia). :smile:

Sobek

23-Apr-2007 06:03

http://forum.catchride.com/style_emo...fault/puke.gif

Just Radeon 2 GT/XT/XTX thanks. Poor/Average/Highend users :wink:

R300King!

23-Apr-2007 07:19

I say call it the Radeon-and-on :D

_xxx_

23-Apr-2007 09:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cuthalu (Post 974307)

That's very good naming scheme. However, it's way too logical, good and simple to be used by AMD (or nVidia). :smile:

Yup, not confusing enough for the less knowlegable customers. Otherwise, how would you sell stuff like the 9200 512MB or such?

hoom	23-Apr-2007 10:25

Naming is decided by marketing & marketing likes short sensible names like AMD ATI Radeon HD X39050 XTX Limited Edition Extreme Model Deluxe :roll:

SugarCoat

23-Apr-2007 10:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoom (Post 974361)

Naming is decided by marketing & marketing likes short sensible names like AMD ATI Radeon HD X39050 XTX Limited Edition Extreme Model Deluxe :roll:

i'm confused i thought the XTX was the OEM only version, i just bought an XTL, i thought that was the right one because the XTV has half the shader engines and the XTG has twice the clock rate with half the ram. If the XTX isnt OEM only then whats the XTL? If i bought the wrong card im going to be so angry!!11!

personally i have a simple way to solve the naming confusion, i just go to the store and say to the guy "give me the one that costs way wayyy wayyyyyy too much money"

actually i just lurk here and learnded it all as the new stuff pops up

PatrickL

23-Apr-2007 10:50

Could be worse. Just imagine if Leadtek was making AMD based cards :razz:

neliz

23-Apr-2007 10:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by SugarCoat (Post 974364)

personally i have a simple way to solve the naming confusion, i just go to the store and say to the guy "give me the one that costs way wayyy wayyyyyy too much money"

You still end up with the XFX Geforce 8800 Ultra Extreme XXX OC model.

BrynS

23-Apr-2007 12:45

Well, at least the Tunis Press Briefing appears to be underway.

nicolasb

23-Apr-2007 13:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrynS (Post 974402)

Well, at least the Tunis Press Briefing appears to be underway.

Surely it must now be time for the LAST LAST rumours and speculation thread...?

Techno+

23-Apr-2007 13:55

instead of G1, G2 etc. make it 1G, 2G, 3G just like mobile phones:cool:

Arty	23-Apr-2007 16:30

"Preview" or should I say all_rumors_so_far_compiled :sly:

http://it-review.net/index.php?optio...=1288&Itemid=1

nutball

23-Apr-2007 16:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by serenity (Post 974479)

"Preview" or should I say all_rumors_so_far_compiled :sly:

http://it-review.net/index.php?optio...=1288&Itemid=1

24-bit anti-aliasing? Sounds ground-breaking.

Sound_Card

23-Apr-2007 16:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by serenity (Post 974479)

"Preview" or should I say all_rumors_so_far_compiled :sly:

http://it-review.net/index.php?optio...=1288&Itemid=1

Some how they complied the info that G80 is 80nm.

Sound_Card

23-Apr-2007 17:08

This is a intresting bit from that artical...

Quote:

R600 has a built-in sound chip. As simple as that. That makes quite a lot of interesting things possible.

Quote:

Let's discuss this sound-chip thingy a bit further and use our imagination. One of the things ATi-engineers have been thinking about is something we could call sound physics. The "usual" physics is supported with R600, but having a sound chip onboard - that's a very interesting thing. But let's start with an example.

You're playing your favorite game (pick your name here), and you're firing like crazy. You move, and you hit a table that has a glass on. Glass falls down from the table and crushes into a thowsand pieces. You go on as if nothing has happened.
Next day, you come to a same place, do the very same thing and - you'll get the same sound, because that's the way things are mostly done today. But what if you could always have some set of parameters that could "morph" the sound (change it) with respect to different speed you bump into the table, different angle the glass falls on the floor etc? The sound would change, thus making the game more realistic and interesting. It does sound interesting, right? We absolutely want this feature and give it a standing ovation, especially since this is done directly on the graphic card (less delay, less overhead, faster response time, easier to manipulate etc). We heard about this back in January and we've been thinking about this for months. Being a musician and a sound engineer on a part-time basis I understand the complexity of this solution and the need for it on a completely another level. Now I wonder if this could somehow be used in audio applications. Gee, wasn't this the very same idea we've been having for months now? Hmmm...

nice!

3dilettante

23-Apr-2007 17:14

Do they have R600 down as a 65nm chip?

Robin B

23-Apr-2007 17:19

So its 65 nm now ??

Quote:

Not bad for a 12-layer 65nm part, huh? With 700 milion transistors, working at 750MHz and higher clock, with 512MB GDDR3 and price somewhere in the $450 region?

Sound_Card

23-Apr-2007 17:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3dilettante (Post 974510)

Do they have R600 down as a 65nm chip?

Quote:

First and foremost - the designs for some parts of the new series are 65nm, according to our sources. This is the first surprise we stumbled upon when we were discussing some info we got from different partners. There were some reports about going with 80nm and then 65nm while products are already in shops, but scrap this. 65nm only. High-end parts have 320 stream processing units and 512-bit 8-channel memory interface, if information that partners have been kindly providing us are true.

So they say...

IbaneZ

23-Apr-2007 17:29

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...d=656&Itemid=1

ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT TURBO SILENT Heatpipe 512MB GDDR3 VIVO TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail

overclockers.co.uk is a little early. :)

Geeforcer

23-Apr-2007 18:16

You know, I am looking at the pictures of R600 heatsink... that thing is impressive. I wonder how much it costs.

3dilettante

23-Apr-2007 18:18

I'm wondering if that site got their numbers mixed up.

They have R600 consuming upwards of 270 W. If everything's supposedly 65nm, then one would think R600 wouldn't be burning the rumored wattage of the 80nm part.

neliz

23-Apr-2007 18:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sound_Card (Post 974505)

This is a intresting bit from that artical...

bla blaSound Physicsbla bla

nice!

Ouch! "Sound Physics" comes from an Inq/Fud article where, as usual the lousy grasp of english turned "Sound and Physics" into "Sound Physics".. which got it-review wetting it's panties.. .nothing to worry about...

neliz

23-Apr-2007 18:25

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...=657&Itemid=34

copper

http://www.fudzilla.com/images/stori...r600_pic_2.jpg

Fudo says the 8pin is only for overclocking/overdrive...

Geeforcer

23-Apr-2007 18:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3dilettante (Post 974542)

Reading the article, the whole thing is full of "we don't know", "we think", "it seems" and "it's rumored".

BTW, I must be the only person in the world who thinks that spending GPU transistors on sound processing is a dubious idea.

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