Kinect buying intentions poll

[Shifty Geezer]

Now the price is known, $150/€150/£130 for Kinect+Kinect Adventures, or a bundle for $300/€300/£250 with 4GB 'Arcade' and Kinect, what are B3Ders buying intentions?

[joker454]

My wife saw an article and video on Kinect today, and then told me "lets get this, I think it might get me back into video games". So looks like I'm getting it :)

[BRiT]

My initial thought is to take a wait-and-see attitude, with an eye out on any possible deals to get it for less.

Depending on how well the games fare, I can see buying the bundles as Christmas gifts for my sister or my parents. I think they'd really enjoy the dancing and exercise games.

[Shifty Geezer]

My wife saw an article and video on Kinect today, and then told me "lets get this, I think it might get me back into video games". So looks like I'm getting it :)I'm thinking the family factor might be the biggest seller. It's probably better value for XB360 owners to get Kinect than get a Wii if the family are wanting active gaming. Let's see if this poll validates my theory! ;)

[digitalwanderer]

My kids will insist, so I chose the first. I'm curious to see it in action, but it doesn't sound like my cup-o-tea.

[NavNucST3]

I voted "mostly for me"; I'm certain that the video/movie functionality will be used more than the gaming. My wife talked about it today while I was talking about replacing my sons current 360, "Why don't you wait until the motion thing is out"; my mouth was agape.

[liolio]

Vote none of he above but I could buy it for my family which resumes to my wife as I've a hard time having to get her hand on a pad...
I guess I will set up a try for both a us and then decide.

[zed]

I put
I would get the peripheral if I owned a 360, but I don't

but ideally like anything like this the best + sanest option is
- wait a month see what other guinea pigs (ahem users) think and then decide then, basing a decision off pre release marketing/hype/expectations etc is just stopid(tm)

the above applies also to the ps3 (which I also dont own) + move

[eastmen]

I got mine preordered. IF the games are $50 each then the $150 for the unit and the game isn't that bad. $130 would have made me much happier though. But my nephew will love the game and I will enjoy using it for some social gaming with friends. We don't really use the wii at all and its not hooked up but the 360 allways gets use so its easier for those days people are over. We laready have rockband and all the stuff for the 360 so one unit to do everything.

[BadTB25]

Kinect mostly for the wife, but I can become very interested in the non gaming functions. I might be sold if the right game comes along.

[Arwin]

The option for me isn't there yet, though closest is 'would get the peripheral for me but it's too expensive'

I'm not buying it right now because I'm a) not convinced by the games yet and b) don't even know whether or not it can work in my smallish livingroom. I'll await initial game and peripheral reviews and what limitations it will have. Under normal circumstances it's a must buy for me even if only just for being able to tell my friends about it, but for now I'm going to wait and see and be rather skeptical. However, if a game comes along that is like the Salsa lessons I used to have (which involved almost line-dancing, very intensive warm-up and cool-downs) with good feedback on my performance, I will make it work somehow and my wife will probably like it a lot too.

Once the value is actually there fore me, I may well go for the Arcade bundle, since I sitll have a European launch unit without HDMI. Will be interesting to find out though how much it will cost to add a harddrive ...

[AzBat]

I picked "Kinect, mostly for me (+ family)". I really wanted it for $100, but after checking it out more I've decided that $150 with Kinect Adventures(a game I do want) is worth pre-ordering. I just wished I knew if the 3 extra levels exclusive to the $299 pre-order came with the $150 add-on pre-order. The family is really excited for it too. They're really wanting Kinectimals, Dance Central & Your Shape Fitness.

Tommy McClain

[RancidLunchmeat]

I'm with Arwin.

I'm looking for the "waiting to read real reviews from real people and see real videos of real gameplay" before deciding whether or not it is worth purchasing at any price.

I could still be swayed, like Azbat was, that $150 might be reasonable. I could also still be swayed that I don't want this even if it were given to me for free. (Ie: it'll just take up space, look stupid, will never use any features, etc)

[BadTB25]

If the came out with P90Xtype motivational game, I'd be in.

Ideally, it would track my workouts and adjust my regimen with tips as you go along.

[Rangers]

There's no poll option for what I'm thinking, which is "may purchase, it depends, price is kinda high, and it would be (mostly) just for myself"

[Squilliam]

If it was $99 U.S.D. definately.

If it was $119 U.S.D. I would complain but probably get it anyway.

Since its $149 U.S.D. I've put it off indefinately. I have to take into account the expected adoption rate and therefore support the peripheral would get when I consider what value it might have for me. As the price is higher than what I would expect would drive reasonable adoption, although I may be wrong here, I have to put it aside at least until 2011 because im not going to pay that much for something which may be DOA.

[AzBat]

Has anybody pre-ordered? When? Today or before? I'm trying to decide where to pre-order mine. Almost everything I've pre-ordered I got from GameStop locally. One nice thing about that is I can put some money down now and then do game trades to put toward the pre-order. Then I got to the midnight launch to pick it up. I've never pre-ordered online before. Anybody have suggestions or experiences elsewhere? I'm most worried having to pay it all up front today.

Tommy McClain

[temesgen]

$150.00 is too much money based off MS's track record of support - most recently the KIN which didn't even last 3 months... Move on the other hand requires less investment upfront and the hardware is largely derivative with the Wii's motion's controls so I am not as concerned about my investment in Move lacking software support 1 or 2 years after the launch. Granted Rare could come start to get their groove back but honestly I think Sony's first parties are more likely to do something interesting with the tech.

[V3]

I gotta try it myself, but like PS Move, I haven't seen any game that I like. Normally I need at least one game to get a piece of hardware. And at $150, it's really expensive for a camera. So doubt I get it this year, maybe next year when it drops to $50 and has more games that I like.

[Silent_Buddha]

Haven't pre-ordered mine yet, I'm thinking about waiting for the X360 + Kinect bundle. Although without a HDD, hmmmm.

Then again I have a bunch of 16 GB thumbdrives. Can you install games to thumbdrives also? Or is it only to HDD?

Regards,
SB

[Arwin]

Haven't pre-ordered mine yet, I'm thinking about waiting for the X360 + Kinect bundle. Although without a HDD, hmmmm.

Then again I have a bunch of 16 GB thumbdrives. Can you install games to thumbdrives also? Or is it only to HDD?

Regards,
SB

Provided your 360 likes them (it doesn't accept all of them), they behave just like a harddrive iirc. It's a big help for me personally, because the 20GB in my EU launch 360 is now finally becoming too small to get any additional games. So if I can find one or two cheap 16GB thumbdrives, that's going to be a huge increase for me and should last me a fair while. I only recently discovered I have two USB slots in the front of the 360, so I won't miss those. :lol:

[Silent_Buddha]

That's good news, I'll have to try mine out when I get back to the states. Funny thing is, I think I only paid 19.99 for my Crucial 16 GB thumbdrives, they were on sale at Costco. If they work, that's 64 GB of storage for the price of the original 20 GB HDD. :D

Regards,
SB

[Shifty Geezer]

Since its $149 U.S.D. I've put it off indefinately. I have to take into account the expected adoption rate and therefore support the peripheral would get when I consider what value it might have for me.Yeah, if I had known how PSEye interest was going to be non-existent, and Sony weren't going to make anything based on those tech demos they showed (what was that Eye Spy game they had?), I wouldn't have bought one.

I should have included a wait-and-see option, but my thinking was just who has definite opinions, assuming anyone who doesn't vote is waiting and seeing!

[zed]

Thus we can take from this poll
Im intelligently sane
- and the rest of yous are easily lead nutters?
:)
bugger the cash, does it work (fullstop)
there is no lag, no lag I tell you

[zed]

but seriously, how can u know until u see it in the flesh?

[Dr Evil]

I doubt that I'll ever buy Kinect. I just don't see it offering anything of interest to me. The games where it excels are the type of games that I don't play and I don't see it offering anything extra to the games I like. I mostly enjoy story driven games or very tight control action games, so it doesn't leave much for Kinect. I live alone so no family fun games and I don't play games often with friends either.

So while it's always nice to get new things/gadgets, nowadays I actually have to convince myself that the purchase is atleast somewhat useful to me. My gaming hours are like 1/10th of what they used to be anyways...

[NavNucST3]

Looking at the public results I can honestly say there is only one vote that I would not have guessed...

[obonicus]

My choice wasn't really covered, so I chose the one that seemed more appropriate. $150 isn't a deal-breaker for me, I've paid more for peripherals with even more limited applications. The software available doesn't justify the price for me though, since I have little interest in party games.

[Andrew Lauritzen]

I'm interested in messing around with the technology a bit although I haven't seen any compelling applications yet (other than maybe what they are doing with the UI controls if that turns out to be good).

But I seriously don't understand how they can justify selling it for this price... the camera hardware is not very expensive. I think this is a serious mis-step for Microsoft in a peripheral that will already have questionable uptake... they need to get these things out to the majority of people that own a 360, not just a few enthusiasts.

[Scott_Arm]

The camera itself might not be that expensive, but I imagine the R&D behind the project was pretty huge. And hardware costs rarely reflect the cost of the component. The price is based on what the consumer is willing to pay. Will they pay $150? Probably. I'd prefer if it was $100-125, but I don't think $150 is too extreme. $175-200 would have been way too much.

[Arwin]

What's the cheapest motorised swivel camera currently out there? I think that motor adds to the cost a fair bit.

[Squilliam]

Yeah, if I had known how PSEye interest was going to be non-existent, and Sony weren't going to make anything based on those tech demos they showed (what was that Eye Spy game they had?), I wouldn't have bought one.

This is the risk any early adopter takes on. I guess that means you're not so keen to repeat the process?

I should have included a wait-and-see option, but my thinking was just who has definite opinions, assuming anyone who doesn't vote is waiting and seeing!

Well you ARE a mod, im sure you can do many things with that poll to twist it to your satisfaction. :razz:

[Mize]

Wait and see. If the games are good and my kids (especially my lazy-assed son) like them, I'll buy one.

[Andrew Lauritzen]

What's the cheapest motorised swivel camera currently out there? I think that motor adds to the cost a fair bit.
Could be although how necessary is it really? Trying to recoup the (software) R&D cost on the hardware is a naive strategy though. Like I said, the only way they win with this is if everyone buys one and at the current price with no really compelling products I doubt that will happen. I imagine the people who want the Harmonix dance game will get it just for that but otherwise I doubt there's mass market appeal enough to justify the cost.

The bundled version pricing implies they really are trying to target people without 360s already but how many people are there that don't already have 360s that really would change their mind over this peripheral? I guess we'll see.

[NavNucST3]

My choice wasn't really covered, so I chose the one that seemed more appropriate. $150 isn't a deal-breaker for me, I've paid more for peripherals with even more limited applications. The software available doesn't justify the price for me though, since I have little interest in party games.

That would explain "the one" :razz:

[RancidLunchmeat]

Like I said, the only way they win with this is if everyone buys one and at the current price with no really compelling products I doubt that will happen.

What do you think they are trying to "win" here?

I would strongly doubt that MS's strategy with Kinect is any different than their strategy with Live on the original xbox.

They're positioning a feature late in the lifecycle of a console to flush it out for the next generation.

[AzBat]

GI.biz interviewed Chris Lewis, Microsoft's VP for the Interactive Entertainment Business in Europe....

But to answer your question, will we see more of these hybrid experiences coming, where you can complement what might ostensibly be a controller-based experience with gestures, voice and physical movement? Yes, I think that will come. I think there's an overlap there, a logical and a good one.

Again, without compromising on the experience, making sure it's incremental and generally advantageous to the experience, then you'll see those types of experiences coming over time. And therefore I think all of the different types of gaming experiences you describe will become available over the coming 18 months or so.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/kinecting-people-interview?page=3

Everybody on the net is reading that as you won't see hardcore Kinect games for another 18 months, but if you read exactly what was said that's not exactly the case. You'll see that kind of experience coming OVER the next 18 months. Though it could still directly tie-in with the next gen system if released another 10 months later(Holiday 2012).

Tommy McClain

[Andrew Lauritzen]

What do you think they are trying to "win" here?
I can only assume they're trying to take a chunk of the Wii market, which is a completely different strategy than XBL was. Maybe I'm assuming too much but their focus seems to be precisely on the Wii demographic so far...

[tha_con]

Until more core games are shown that interest me, I'm not interested. Based on the software I've seen thus far, I'm not sure what kind of games I'll see that I like for this type of control method. We'll see.

[BRiT]

I said I'd be keeping an eye out on deals, and here's one hell of a deal. You can buy the Kinect for around $90 + Tax from Toys-R-Us!

Here's the details taken from SlickDeals (http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2140620).


Kinect Product Page (http://slickdeals.net/?sdtid=2140620&sdop=1&sdfid=9&u2=http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4313430)

Use coupon code 939418 for 40% off any Game Accessory.
Good only for 07/22/10 with a 3 item limit.

[Rolf N]

What's the cheapest motorised swivel camera currently out there? I think that motor adds to the cost a fair bit.I have no sympathy for that particular decision. Nobody forced Microsoft to go with these extreme-low-res cameras, necessitating the motor tracking. They could have just used decent camera sensors with proper optics to capture a wide fov from a static angle.

edit: so apparently the camera res is specced as 640x480 right now. So WTF do they need the motor for?

[Scott_Arm]

I have no sympathy for that particular decision. Nobody forced Microsoft to go with these extreme-low-res cameras, necessitating the motor tracking. They could have just used decent camera sensors with proper optics to capture a wide fov from a static angle.

edit: so apparently the camera res is specced as 640x480 right now. So WTF do they need the motor for?

The motor is for when you walk up close to the camera, outside it's field of view, like they did in the Forze 3 walk-around demo. I'm assuming that's what its for, anyway.

[RancidLunchmeat]

I can only assume they're trying to take a chunk of the Wii market, which is a completely different strategy than XBL was. Maybe I'm assuming too much but their focus seems to be precisely on the Wii demographic so far...

Nyah, they're trying to make Nintendo pull another rabbit out of their hat again next generation by taking away the WiiHD market.

Kinect is launching now to work out the bugs and gain some following, press, and mindshare so when it's implemented in its new form in the NextBox, it'll be polished. Just like Live. This entire thing is a Beta test.

[tha_con]

Nyah, they're trying to make Nintendo pull another rabbit out of their hat again next generation by taking away the WiiHD market.

Kinect is launching now to work out the bugs and gain some following, press, and mindshare so when it's implemented in its new form in the NextBox, it'll be polished. Just like Live. This entire thing is a Beta test.

With this kind of logic, PS2 was a beta for PS3, or first generation cars are the beta for later models in the same gen, etc.

I think it's a bit disingenuous.

[Andrew Lauritzen]

Nyah, they're trying to make Nintendo pull another rabbit out of their hat again next generation by taking away the WiiHD market.
Does anyone seriously still think that market even exists? I know very few people who owns Wiis who care about it being HD. It has been a long time since Nintendo tried to sell a console/handheld based on primarily graphical/tech upgrades and it has been working out well for them... I doubt they're going to change their plan any time soon.

And the idea that Microsoft would somehow doubt Nintendo's ability to come up with a new idea that is unrelated to the obvious graphical tech bump is absurd given Nintendo's track record.

If it's a beta test then it's definitely too expensive.

[RancidLunchmeat]

Does anyone seriously still think that market even exists? I know very few people who owns Wiis who care about it being HD.

In that case, better sell your Nintendo stock now because there's no future console for them on the horizon.


And the idea that Microsoft would somehow doubt Nintendo's ability to come up with a new idea that is unrelated to the obvious graphical tech bump is absurd given Nintendo's track record.

If it's a beta test then it's definitely too expensive.

What track record is that exactly? The Wii? Or the failed Gamecube one generation prior?

Too expensive? For hardcore gamers? Sure. For motion control loving casuals who are tired with their Wii and see a value proposition in better graphics + no controller + Live features, etc? No, probably not too expensive.

Keep in mind that even with Sony and MS climbing into this market, the hardcore market has been a failure on the Wii even though some concept ideas for the controller seemed promising. So what is MS doing? Going after the casuals with their dance games, and working to try to see if they can incorporate the tech into "real" games at a later time.

I wouldn't expect to see more than 2 games outside of Fable III that are marketed towards the hardcore gamer for this "round" of Kinect. If they are successful, or if their development shows promise, then we'll see it nextgen.

I would expect the Nextbox launch games to be Kinect-enabled. Just like the 360 launch games were Live enabled.

Until then, we'll see a smattering here and there with some minor implementations in certain games as a 'reward' to those who subsidized the beta test by purchasing revision version 1.0

[Andrew Lauritzen]

In that case, better sell your Nintendo stock now because there's no future console for them on the horizon.
So what? Their current platforms seem to be doing just fine :) The Wii was barely a new console in terms of hardware ;)


For motion control loving casuals who are tired with their Wii and see a value proposition in better graphics + no controller + Live features, etc? No, probably not too expensive.
Why would you assume casual games are going to pay MORE? The conventional wisdom is that it's the opposite.

Anyways time will tell but I think it's a mistake pricing this so high. Market penetration is what Microsoft needs with this now, not a few extra bucks and potentially annoyed customers.

[AzBat]

I said I'd be keeping an eye out on deals, and here's one hell of a deal. You can buy the Kinect for around $90 + Tax from Toys-R-Us!

Here's the details taken from SlickDeals (http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2140620).

Just tried it & it says promo code "Not Applied". :( I was considering the Walmart pre-order but have now decided to wait a little longer, will probably end up pre-ordering through Gamestop($50 up front, rest can be paid anytime up to launch).

Tommy McClain

[eastmen]

Just tried it & it says promo code "Not Applied". :( I was considering the Walmart pre-order but have now decided to wait a little longer, will probably end up pre-ordering through Gamestop($50 up front, rest can be paid anytime up to launch).

Tommy McClain

I preordered at gamestop also. Put $25 down tho before they changed to $50. However I'm up to $75 bucks on it. want to have it paid off by Oct.

Thankfully this is really light year gaming wise for me. Def fable 3 , fall out new vegas and mabye DCU

[Barbarian]

I voted X360+Kinect for me+family.

I have a launch X360 that is shockingly still alive. I've been thinking of replacing it anyway, X360-S is tempting me as is, and Kinect intrigues me just enough to give it a try. The wife and kid having some fun with Kinect is a big plus too.

[RudeCurve]

I'm waiting for the $400 250G Slim + Kinect bundle.

[Squilliam]

This isn't Kinect but I intend to buy it. It being a 250GB Halo: Reach bundle oooo lalalalalalalala! Digi will be so jealous! :razz:

[GregLee]

None of the above, here. I wouldn't mind the $150, if it ever came to seem that I or my wife would ever use it. I'll be watching the reviews, looking to see if it's easy and fun. From what little I know, I'm not optimistic. I'm really more into 3d stuff, currently.