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K.I.L.E.R
16-Jan-2008, 19:13
I dual boot with Vista Ultimate x64 and after installing Parsix it will not configure GRUB correctly.
The last entry in menu.lst is:
title *INSERT WHATEVER TITLE WAS IN BY DEFAULT (which was wrong anyway)*
chainloader (hd0,0)+1
instead it should be:
title Windows Vista (sda1)
root (hd0,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1
Now everything is functional, perfectly.
I really love how Parsix fits on a single CD, at the same time I have the latest GCC and everything else. I would have liked to have seen Xorg 7.3 as opposed to 7.2.
Other than that Parsix is literally perfect, I was about to go half arsed at compiling my own kernel and the like because there was no other distro that met my requirements.
* Small (fits on a single CD)
* Lite (consumes jack-all resources, about 270MB RAM, 0 swap)
* 0x86_64, I have 4GB of memory, I like have it all available, on top of that I develop applications that benefit from having 16 XMM registers which isn't a luxury under a 32-bit OS.
* Latest and greatest (Compared to other distros, Parsix is pretty much up to date on par to what I'm happy with).
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/5563/screenshotyp8.th.jpg (http://img50.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotyp8.jpg)
Now where is that option for antialiased text?
What anime is that wallpaper from?
K.I.L.E.R
17-Jan-2008, 06:22
Claymore.
Helen is on the left, Galatea on the right.
What's wrong with GNOME? Sure KDE has more options but I don't mind GNOME because I do all my work via console anyway.
Rodéric
17-Jan-2008, 18:24
I still consider the BeOS to be the best OS for its time, still unmatched.
I follow the progress of both www.skyos.org & www.haiku-os.org
gonna try that linux distro of yours
I'm used to cobbling together do-dads in my desktop environment, and KDE is far better development environment. I know GTK/GNOME has a lot of bindings in other languages, so does Qt/KDE, but the tools and integration are far nicer in KDE.
I spend a lot of time in consoles too, Konsole is my favourite term anyways.
I still consider the BeOS to be the best OS for its time, still unmatched.
I wouldn't say of its time. It was ten years too early. It would be a perfect fit for todays multicored CPUs.
Cheers
Scott_Arm
22-Jan-2008, 05:20
QNX
I used QNX a bit at school. It's actually pretty neat and insanely light-weight. Their new "open source" model is kind of neat.
Scott_Arm
22-Jan-2008, 05:23
I still consider the BeOS to be the best OS for its time, still unmatched.
I follow the progress of both www.skyos.org & www.haiku-os.org
gonna try that linux distro of yours
I never had the pleasure of trying BeOS. What I've read sounds fantastic. Unfortunately for me, it's really one of those things where I don't have time to mess with multiple operating systems, and I'm going to use whatever OS has all the applications I want to use, which sadly always ends up being Windows. I'm very close to become a Mac convert though, because my gaming time has dropped off dramatically. If they made a 13" macbook pro with a non-glossy anti-glare screen, I'd buy it immediately.
I still consider the BeOS to be the best OS for its time, still unmatched.
Definitely. It would have become THE operating system if it got any more support than it did.
K.I.L.E.R
13-Feb-2008, 06:35
Here is a revival of BeOS.
http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/08/02/12/1431245.shtml
mark me down as another beos fan
the only non ms o/s that worked with my win-moden out of the box so to speak
ps: anyone know of a livecd that will give my hardware aclleration on my 8800gts
the only one ive found so far is benelix which is a solaris live cd and uses the compiz opengl composting on the desktop
Rodéric
13-Feb-2008, 09:26
herm I edited the link to www.skyos.org ^^ dunno why I didn't notice it missed the 'y'...
Ah the good days I was running the BeOS at home...
I remember how upset I was all day long when I switched back to XP after Be inc died, that was a nightmare.
Today I'm so used to Windows (ie bad OS) that I don't even notice how poor it is ^^
(Latest Haiku build runs incredibely fast on my system, even in Qemu, maybe time to get one more HDD for it...)
Simon F
13-Feb-2008, 09:50
Here is a revival of BeOS.
http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/08/02/12/1431245.shtml
There also appears to be this (http://www.bebits.com/app/2680), but it says "won't run on modern computers"
nutball
13-Feb-2008, 10:12
I thought BeOS was great, had hours on fun tinkering. Ultimately though it was plain early on that it wasn't gaining much traction and wasn't going to go anywhere. It faced the same uphill battle that Linux-on-the-desktop does today, but with far fewer resources. Shame.
There also appears to be this (http://www.bebits.com/app/2680), but it says "won't run on modern computers"
i ran it with xp but iirc you had to boot it from a floppy
Rodéric
13-Feb-2008, 19:10
There also appears to be this (http://www.bebits.com/app/2680), but it says "won't run on modern computers"
That version is from 1999/2000, the OS has a few "limitations" that weren't an issue back then, like having problems with 1GB of RAM and above, or missdetecting newer CPU features.
You can run it on an old computer (PII/PIII) easily.
I still have an old K6-200 384MB running it well.
Today I'd recommend trying Haiku in Qemu or VMWare, it's close to the original in all respects, and it's incredibely fast, even that way.
i ran it on a 1.2ghz tbird with 512mb
for those missing beos
heres some beos icons for ya's ;)
http://-kol.deviantart.com/art/BeOS-Icons-2006589
AlphaWolf
13-Feb-2008, 21:26
for those missing beos
heres some beos icons for ya's ;)
http://-kol.deviantart.com/art/BeOS-Icons-2006589
pfft I still have beos4 installed on my p75. /flex
/Salutes alphawolf's leetness :D
Blazkowicz
15-Feb-2008, 14:05
about that BeOS R5 edition, I didn't understand why it isn't a self contained OS, if you need windows or linux doesn't that defeat the purpose? also I frustated by the lack of a PowerPC version (and I couldn't find one).. I wanted to find BeOS because there's a macintosh with PowerPC 601 lying around, 80MB ram, the OS is the most terrible, slow loading and useless pile of shit I've ever seen and we laugh at the one button mouse.
The actual BeBox had one or two PowerPC 601 I think.
haiku isn't probably very usable if they don't even offer an install CD, and it's x86 PC only.. too bad! I really only needed BeOS because an old Mac is totally useless anyway and it looked like a great OS to use on such limited hardware.
You can look for BeOS4, it should work fine with that Mac I think. There's also another (commercial, but cheap) clone out there but I forgot the name. You may find it here in forum if you search for BeOS.
Rodéric
15-Feb-2008, 20:46
Zeta
as BeOS Zeta... 6th letter of the greek alphabet.
http://www.zeta-os.com/
about that BeOS R5 edition, I didn't understand why it isn't a self contained OS,
it is your getting confused with BeOS R5 Personal Edition which installed and ran from windows it was suppossed to be a sort of easy introduction to BeOS so people could try it out /get a feel for it
(installed/uninstalled to a folder withinn windows. No need to mess with partitions ect)
mrcorbo
02-Apr-2008, 03:12
QNX
I was pretty excited about the potential of QNX on the desktop at one time. Lack of drivers pretty much doomed it from the start, though. It just didn't ever support enough hardware to be useful (at least to me). That bootable floppy that contained everything you needed to boot up the OS with a full GUI and (if you had a compatible network card) get you onto the internet with a web browser was pretty damn impressive.
Rodéric
02-Apr-2008, 12:48
BeOS 5 Personal Edition used a security hole in Windows 9x to take over the computer. When you clicked the icon, it really wiped the existing OS from memory and loaded itself to entirely replace it.
There's Haiku (http://www.haiku-os.org/) which should enter alpha soon ^^
QNX was impressive, but lack of apps & drivers made it useless.
Scott_Arm
03-Apr-2008, 00:03
BeOS 5 Personal Edition used a security hole in Windows 9x to take over the computer. When you clicked the icon, it really wiped the existing OS from memory and loaded itself to entirely replace it.
There's Haiku (http://www.haiku-os.org/) which should enter alpha soon ^^
QNX was impressive, but lack of apps & drivers made it useless.
QNX is owned by Harmon Kardon now. They do the real-time systems for all the new BMWs or something. A person I know from work's spouse works at QNX, and they get to drive all the fancy new BMWs before they hit the market. I guess they're doing alright.
QNX is pretty neat.
I was pretty excited about the potential of QNX on the desktop at one time. Lack of drivers pretty much doomed it from the start, though. It just didn't ever support enough hardware to be useful (at least to me). That bootable floppy that contained everything you needed to boot up the OS with a full GUI and (if you had a compatible network card) get you onto the internet with a web browser was pretty damn impressive.
Ya, that was very impressive. I am still of the impression that it would be the idea OS for a neural network simulation.
IIRC it is used for avionics, medical imagine machines, and a whole host of other vertical implementations. The fact that you could strip it down to such bare essentials was appealing from a support / debug perspective.
I can clearly remember that Quake III for BeOS ran way over 50% faster than the windows version. There we had a small glimpse of what's possible when the OS is not a bloated bunch of crap.
Have you tried Sabayon Linux? (spelling) I have heard good things about it.
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