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I currently have Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 clocked @ 333x9 - 3000MHz. Computer Full tower complete System.
I currently have Antec TruePower Trio 550 550W w/ 8pin EPS12V Connector
* Brand: Antec
* Model: TP3-550
Question?
Will this power-supply be enough to supply enough power in long term with combine upcoming AMD RV670 GPU that I planned to get.
Which type of Power Supply would somebody recommend for non-crossfire system for long term use!
ShaidarHaran
18-Oct-2007, 02:26
Yes, with a big if. That if being whether or not your PSU actually holds up. I can't tell you how many TruePower Trios I've had to RMA because they were DOA or had horrible rail regulation.
LunchBox
19-Oct-2007, 12:52
It should be more than enough :)
Unless if you are planning on a crossfire...
Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.
19-Oct-2007, 14:17
Yes, with a big if. That if being whether or not your PSU actually holds up. I can't tell you how many TruePower Trios I've had to RMA because they were DOA or had horrible rail regulation.
Out of interest, what did you replace them with?
ShaidarHaran
19-Oct-2007, 21:34
Out of interest, what did you replace them with?
I replaced them with working TPTs. They were RMA'd, not scrapped outright.
Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.
19-Oct-2007, 22:16
I replaced them with working TPTs. They were RMA'd, not scrapped outright.
I thought you might have replaced them with another make if you were getting so many failures that you considered them completely unreliable. I was interested in what make you found to be more reliable.
Albuquerque
19-Oct-2007, 22:25
I agree that many of the newer TruePower Antec's seem to have "issues", but it alos seems to be hit or miss -- sometimes they die, sometimes they're fine.
About four months ago when my Antec TruePower 480 gave out, I purchased an XCLIO 600W. They're a brand new name here in the states, but they get excellent reviews and they're priced very competitively. Mine is a triple-rail, active PFC (85%), modular unit with a single 140mm fan for uber-quiet heat dissipation under big load, and it cost me like $80 brand new from NewEgg. (They're more expensive there now :( )
Fantastic unit with zero complaints from me. I love the modular cabling; it makes your case SO much cleaner. And it still has the 20+4 pin setup along with all four PCI-E connectors, so you can run SLI on a brand new rig or you can still use it on an old S478 rig like mine :)
NewEgg link for reference:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817189007&Tpk=xclio%2b600W
ShaidarHaran
19-Oct-2007, 22:27
I thought you might have replaced them with another make if you were getting so many failures that you considered them completely unreliable. I was interested in what make you found to be more reliable.
Silverstone. I have never seen a failed Silverstone PSU. Enermax, PC Power & Cooling, OCZ, FSP/Sparkle are all excellent brands as well, which I have had very good luck with over the years.
I agree about that "Antec TruePower Trio" fails sometimes, but I gave my last chance.
Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.
20-Oct-2007, 01:25
Silverstone. I have never seen a failed Silverstone PSU. Enermax, PC Power & Cooling, OCZ, FSP/Sparkle are all excellent brands as well, which I have had very good luck with over the years.
For myself, I would certainly prefer Enermax or OCZ over Antec. There's been so many bad experiences with Antec all over the internet, I wouldn't go near them.
I also had an interesting experience with one of their marketing managers when I emailed to ask if one of their cases was available without a PSU installed. Basically over the course of a few email exchanges, he told me that I didn't know anything about anything, and that even if I already had the same Antec PSU, I was expected to throw it away and buy a second one if I wanted the case. It was some policy so that they wouldn't get complaints about their "silent" cases being noisy when people put noisy PSUs in them.
After mailing to say "thanks, then it looks like you don't sell what I require", I got email insisting that I needed their PSU regardless of what I wanted. :roll: I've decided other companies make better products that cost less and don't come with expensive bits you don't want and no longer have any interest in spending my money on Antec products.
ShaidarHaran
20-Oct-2007, 03:08
Although I must say the new Quattro line likes quite nice, especially since they're using the same OEM (Enhance) as Silverstone.
For myself, I would certainly prefer Enermax
http://www.techreport.com/r.x/psus-0907/efficiency-en-720.gif
Enermax claims the Infiniti's efficiency is between 82 and 85%, but our own testing doesn't quite bear that out. The Infiniti certainly isn't wildly inefficient, though. http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/13271/12
I probably would not go with Enermax :(
http://www.techreport.com/r.x/psus-0907/efficiency-an-650.gif
Antec looks better :)
Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.
20-Oct-2007, 04:17
Antec looks better :)
Doesn't do you much good if they fail because they are badly made.
Doesn't do you much good if they fail because they are badly made.
Agreed!
So far my Antec works fine!, if it fails on me; NO MORE ANTEC!!
550watts is enough
It should be more than enough
Unless if you are planning on a crossfire.
Thank you!
My favourite PSU at the moment is the Corsair 620HX. I can recommend it to anyone barring they want to run 8800 GTX in SLI with many harddrives or other components. In a very lean system, it could power 8800 GTX SLI just fine.
My favourite PSU at the moment is the Corsair 620HX. I can recommend it to anyone barring they want to run 8800 GTX in SLI with many harddrives or other components. In a very lean system, it could power 8800 GTX SLI just fine.
I believe these are rebadged Seasonics, also a great manufacturer of PSUs.
{Sniping}Waste
24-Oct-2007, 01:59
I would look at a PSU reviews for Jonnyguru and take his advise.
Here is one of the Enermax 720.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/review_details.php?id=102
I would look at a PSU reviews for Jonnyguru and take his advise.
I wouldn't. A reviewer who rates "aesthetics" but doesn't even mention noise... rofl.
Oh, wait... he does mention that it was "quiet" (yep, that's it, one word). That would be a first for Enermax. Since the smaller Infinity PSU's most certainly don't qualify as "quiet", I doubt the 720W one does.
ShaidarHaran
24-Oct-2007, 17:01
I wouldn't. A reviewer who rates "aesthetics" but doesn't even mention noise... rofl.
Oh, wait... he does mention that it was "quiet" (yep, that's it, one word). That would be a first for Enermax. Since the smaller Infinity PSU's most certainly don't qualify as "quiet", I doubt the 720W one does.
Talk about throwing out the baby with the bath water... One deficiency does not a poor review make.
Talk about throwing out the baby with the bath water... One deficiency does not a poor review make.
It makes a poor review when the reviewer gives recommendations based on bullshit criteria (aesthetics) while not taking into consideration what's probably the second most important characteristic next to technical performance. "Sniping Waste" said to follow his advise but that's simply not a good idea unless you really don't give the slightest fuck about noise.
It's like reviewing video cards and basing your final score on FPS and how flashy the cooler looks while ignoring severe image quality trade-offs.
I believe these are rebadged Seasonics, also a great manufacturer of PSUs.
No, not rebadged but built by Seasonic for Corsair. They are not 100% identical with the Seasonic PSUs they are based on.
{Sniping}Waste
25-Oct-2007, 16:08
It makes a poor review when the reviewer gives recommendations based on bullshit criteria (aesthetics) while not taking into consideration what's probably the second most important characteristic next to technical performance. "Sniping Waste" said to follow his advise but that's simply not a good idea unless you really don't give the slightest fuck about noise.
It's like reviewing video cards and basing your final score on FPS and how flashy the cooler looks while ignoring severe image quality trade-offs.
Then theres the problem with your view point were you get a video card that has a low noise cooler and the video card overheats and burns up in 2 months. About 99% of PSU reviewers don't know how to review a PSU and don't have the equipment to do so. He has the equipment to really run a PSU to 100% load and read its efficiency. The heat box test is a big plus to push it limits.
I would look at a PSU reviews for Jonnyguru and take his advise.
Here is one of the Enermax 720.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/review_details.php?id=102
That review and one other one I can't remember was my basis for getting the Enermax 720 for my 2900 based system. I knew the cable lengths wouldn't be an issue for me using a mid-tower and it wasn't. Great PSU.
No, not rebadged but built by Seasonic for Corsair. They are not 100% identical with the Seasonic PSUs they are based on.
Really? What are some of the differences? I bought Seasonic but the Corsair equivalent (Wattage-wise) seemed to be about $30-$40 bucks cheaper. Made me sad when I found this out.
Really? What are some of the differences? I bought Seasonic but the Corsair equivalent (Wattage-wise) seemed to be about $30-$40 bucks cheaper. Made me sad when I found this out.
According to jonnyguru.com
Just an observation, but the cap is only an 85 degrees Celsius rated component. This is actually very common, but the Seasonic built Corsair uses a 105 degrees Celsius rated primary cap.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/review_details.php?id=13&page_num=3
Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.
26-Oct-2007, 11:42
It's often the case with these kinds of things that the design is very similar, but the components are cheaper. Of course it's the high quality components that often make the difference between an average product and a great one.
John Reynolds
28-Oct-2007, 23:32
I'd like to know the difference between PC Power and Cooling's Silencer S75CF and S75QB. Both are 750w OCZ units but there's about a $30 price difference at ZZF.
I'd like to know the difference between PC Power and Cooling's Silencer S75CF and S75QB. Both are 750w OCZ units but there's about a $30 price difference at ZZF.
OCZ units? AFAIK OCZ doesn't produce PSUs. For example, their GameXStream PSUs were Fortron Epsilons in a different case and with worse fan-control settings (i.e. noticably louder than the Fortrons).
For those living under a rock, OCZ bought PC Power and Cooling back in May (http://www.google.com/search?q=ocz+buys+pc+power+and+cooling).
NovemberMike
31-Oct-2007, 03:09
Really? What are some of the differences? I bought Seasonic but the Corsair equivalent (Wattage-wise) seemed to be about $30-$40 bucks cheaper. Made me sad when I found this out.
Quality Control is a big one. Even if two power supplies come from the same factory, different companies can have different requirements for what they will actually accept.
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