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Frank
01-Mar-2007, 16:28
1. I cannot find them on the ATi/AMD site, I have to Google.
2. The download link stays broken, it directs me to an anti-leech page.
3. When I finally got it, it tells me to install the .NET 2.0 framework, and continues.
4. After rebooting, it pops up an error that it cannot load a load an assembly.

In short, it's broken and sucks.

carpediem
01-Mar-2007, 16:42
Found them easily by going to:

www.amd.com, then Support and Downloads -> Utilities, Drivers and Updates -> ATI Customer Care -> Drivers and Software

Granted, it's quite a few links to go through, but them seemed pretty logical to me, considering I just tried for the first time and got there without nagivating wrong even once.

Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.
01-Mar-2007, 16:42
And yet everyone else manages to do all those things with little or no problem. I just did it myself last time drivers came out.

In short, you're broken and you suck. :wink:

Npl
01-Mar-2007, 17:18
1. Their "navigation" looks similar to NVidia`s for me. What kind of card did you have before?
2. either your browser or firewall blocks the referer (yeah, I hate this checks)
3. you can DL the driver alone (without controlcenter), no .net crap needed. You will need the old ControlPanel or ATiTrayTools if you want/have to adjust settings.
4. Controlcenter is the devil. Uninstall and 2nd grade exorcism will solve it.

Frank
01-Mar-2007, 18:11
And yet everyone else manages to do all those things with little or no problem. I just did it myself last time drivers came out.

In short, you're broken and you suck. :wink:
Probably. ;)

candle_86
01-Mar-2007, 18:21
1. Their "navigation" looks similar to NVidia`s for me. What kind of card did you have before?
2. either your browser or firewall blocks the referer (yeah, I hate this checks)
3. you can DL the driver alone (without controlcenter), no .net crap needed. You will need the old ControlPanel or ATiTrayTools if you want/have to adjust settings.
4. Controlcenter is the devil. Uninstall and 2nd grade exorcism will solve it.

lol, just uninstall the ATI card, the drivers in general suck

Anarchist4000
01-Mar-2007, 19:49
What's wrong with the drivers? Can't say I've ever had much of a problem with them on any of the systems that I've used them on.

digitalwanderer
01-Mar-2007, 20:00
And yet everyone else manages to do all those things with little or no problem. I just did it myself last time drivers came out.

In short, you're broken and you suck. :wink:
Seconded. :razz:

Frank
01-Mar-2007, 20:52
Seconded. :razz:
I used your link to get them. :)

digitalwanderer
01-Mar-2007, 21:16
I used your link to get them. :)
Well that was you first mistake! :razz:

Frank
02-Mar-2007, 21:58
3. you can DL the driver alone (without controlcenter), no .net crap needed. You will need the old ControlPanel or ATiTrayTools if you want/have to adjust settings.
4. Controlcenter is the devil. Uninstall and 2nd grade exorcism will solve it.
Seconded. It doesn't even work half the time. I really fail to grasp why anyone would write something like that in .NET. And that's no excuse.

poopypoo
03-Mar-2007, 04:19
Seconded. It doesn't even work half the time. I really fail to grasp why anyone would write something like that in .NET. And that's no excuse.

i agree, these remain the achilles heel of ATi cards (though at least they're very compatible! slightly moreso than the green ones imHo -- but i don't play much OGL). however, the last time this came up, i could swear ppl said that the .NET -- or at least the refusal to move away from .NET -- was due to Vista driver requirements, and that nV's Vista driver would prob use .NET too. i don't have Vista..? but i have to say, vanilla driver + ati traytools is actually the best display interface i've ever had. :)

Skrying
03-Mar-2007, 04:47
The latest release of CCC is actually very very very good. They actually improved the preview graphic so that you can actually see what changes are occurring, it now loads extremely quick (especially in Vista and vastly improved in XP) and the install process is very much improved as well.

Dave Baumann
03-Mar-2007, 06:31
Yes, for those that have been turned off by CCC before should at least revist it with Cat 7.2 and take your opinions from there.

Npl
03-Mar-2007, 15:19
Yes, for those that have been turned off by CCC before should at least revist it with Cat 7.2 and take your opinions from there.So what would I gain? I dont have any confidence in whoever is in charge for it.
Even if its now vastly improved, whats the reason that it was a trainwreck ever since its release, having incompatibilities and a similar amount of bugfixes per release as the driver itself. Is coding some tickboxes and levers really that complex in .NET?

Skrying
03-Mar-2007, 15:25
I don't recall it ever being as bad as you are making it out (I seem to never have that experience though, my stuff just seems to work 99% of the time) but it was slow before for me. I always found that CCC was just slow and the preview image useless, otherwise for the time I spent in there (read: Opened it maybe once a week) it did the job. Now the improved one makes that once a week trip a bit quicker and changes a bit easier to tell that they took effect.

Dave Baumann
03-Mar-2007, 17:23
So what would I gain?
What do you gain by not?

I dont have any confidence in whoever is in charge for it.
Even if its now vastly improved, whats the reason that it was a trainwreck ever since its release, having incompatibilities and a similar amount of bugfixes per release as the driver itself. Is coding some tickboxes and levers really that complex in .NET?
Given the experience I've had with it, I'm not sure I can relate to these points in any way.

digitalwanderer
03-Mar-2007, 17:34
So what would I gain? I dont have any confidence in whoever is in charge for it.
Even if its now vastly improved, whats the reason that it was a trainwreck ever since its release, having incompatibilities and a similar amount of bugfixes per release as the driver itself. Is coding some tickboxes and levers really that complex in .NET?
"Trainwreck"?!? Uhm, what drivers are you talking about? :|

Npl
03-Mar-2007, 18:03
What do you gain by not?By using alternatives I get a responsive and stable UI, without having to install a huge library for a simple GUI?
I might have a different opinion if ATI actually taken their time and released it in the state it is now, but they dint and my expierience with the older Versions wasnt a particulary good one.

"Trainwreck"?!? Uhm, what drivers are you talking about? :|Im talking about the "Catalyst Control Center", not the drivers themself

Dave Baumann
03-Mar-2007, 18:24
I might have a different opinion if ATI actually taken their time and released it in the state it is now, but they dint and my expierience with the older Versions wasnt a particulary good one.
Which goes back to my point: reevaluate it under 7.2 because there have been significant changes.

candle_86
04-Mar-2007, 01:01
What's wrong with the drivers? Can't say I've ever had much of a problem with them on any of the systems that I've used them on.

I've had alot of problems with them on sevral cards from the 9x00 range of cards, from slow Quake 1 engine games being sluggish in OpenGL mode to random crashes on Doom 3 with the newer drivers, seemed to start with 5.10 and last one i used 6.7 still had to many issues for me, at least OpenGl worked on the 9x00 cards for me with the 5.9 and below drivers