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Bad_Boy
03-Oct-2006, 09:39
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/061003.pdf
PS1/PS2 Memory Card Adaptor (USB)= 1,500 Yen including tax (US - $12.99) est
Available on Nov. 11
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/6089/h10361173adopterjpgio3.jpg
Sixaxis Playstation 3 Controller (Bluetooth)= 5,000 Yen including tax (US - $39.99) est
Available on Nov. 11
http://www.bplaystation3.com/images/thumb-ps3controller.jpg
Playstation 3 Remote Control (Bluetooth)= 3,600 Yen including tax (US - $29.99) est
available December 7
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/9770/h10361173rimoconjpgrn9.jpg
StefanS
03-Oct-2006, 09:41
You were a little bit faster, here are the bullet-points from the famitsu article:
PS3 peripherals:
Six-Axis Wireless Controller:
5000 Yen
Can be charged with the USB cable
A full charge last up to 30 hrs.
Lithium ion accumulator
Memory Card Adapter:
1500 Yen
can be used to transfer PS2, PS data to HDD
connects to USB port
BD Remote Control:
3600 Yen
uses Blue-tooth
Bad_Boy
03-Oct-2006, 09:43
Thanks hupfinsgack, 30 hour charge isnt too bad, not bad at all. Lets just hope those batteries in the controller dont explode in our hands. :lol:
rabidrabbit
03-Oct-2006, 09:50
Couldn't they have made one of teh memorycard slots a PS1/2 memcard compatibel, and sell for example a CF adapteer that goes into the PS1/2 memcard slot?
Edit: Ok, the ceheaper PS3 has no memcard slots, so it would have been imposible.
Good, there'll be a remote, I wished for that as the "sixaxis" is hardly the ideal remote for Blu-ray.
Too bad it's Bluetooth, not IR or even WiFi,a s it'll be impossible to program the PS3 BD to an universal remote, though personally I like seperate remotes over those midprice UR's. A good, expensive Pronto or such would be nice to have but for a remote too expensive.
The prices are quite affordable on these accessories, $40 for a sixaxis would be less than I thought it would be, but I fear the prices in US and EU will not be directly converted from yen.
NavNucST3
03-Oct-2006, 09:52
Couldn't they have made one of teh memorycard slots a PS1/2 memcard compatibel, and sell for example a CF adapteer that goes into the PS1/2 memcard slot?
Edit: Ok, the ceheaper PS3 has no memcard slots, so it would have been imposible.
Good, there'll be a remote, I wished for that as the "sixaxis" is hardly the ideal remote for Blu-ray.
Too bad it's Bluetooth, not IR or even WiFi,a s it'll be impossible to program the PS3 BD to an universal remote, though personally I like seperate remotes over those midprice UR's. A good, expensive Pronto or such would be nice to have but for a remote too expensive.
The prices are quite affordable on these accessories, $40 for a sixaxis would be less than I thought it would be, but I fear the prices in US and EU will not be directly converted from yen.
I had hoped to use my Harmony remote, I had also hoped the remote would have been backlit.
DieH@rd
03-Oct-2006, 09:53
I'm glad that controler is 40 bucks. Rumble would just make it over 50$.
Lair developers said to one of 1up.com newsguy, that TILT can sense when you press buttons on controler. Its so sensitive! I think that playing with rumble and tilt "ON" will produce very weird gameplay... :)
Bad_Boy
03-Oct-2006, 09:55
The prices are quite affordable on these accessories, $40 for a sixaxis would be less than I thought it would be, but I fear the prices in US and EU will not be directly converted from yen.
Besides the console itself, japanese prices for games and accessories are generally cheaper. and those are the prices converted after taxes. But yeah, I'd like some more offical confirmation as well.
I'm interested in how long it takes the ps3 controller to get to a full charge. I'm guessing 1-2 hours like the psp.
Good, there'll be a remote, I wished for that as the "sixaxis" is hardly the ideal remote for Blu-ray.
Too bad it's Bluetooth, not IR or even WiFi,a s it'll be impossible to program the PS3 BD to an universal remote, though personally I like seperate remotes over those midprice UR's. A good, expensive Pronto or such would be nice to have but for a remote too expensive.
The prices are quite affordable on these accessories, $40 for a sixaxis would be less than I thought it would be, but I fear the prices in US and EU will not be directly converted from yen.
On the other hand, the advantage of Bluetooth is that finally I don't have to worry anymore about pointing that darn remote in the right direction (in our current case, just around a wooden beam). I can live with that.
But then I can definitely also live with the sixaxis as a remote, because it's wireless now and I already got really comfortable with using the DS2.
At any rate, in his Kikizo interview, Kaz Hirai already indicated that one of the major reasons why they decided to forfeit rumble (so this is definitively out for those who didn't know yet), is because they didn't want the price of the controllers to become too high. Seems like they have kept their word in that respect.
Bad_Boy
03-Oct-2006, 10:08
hmm... Games might be priced in japan as well...
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/2006/10/03/103,1159855395,61170,0,0.html
Konami's Mahjong game 5,229 yen (44 U.S. dollars)
SEGA GOLF CLUB 7,140 yen (60 U.S. dollars)
Genji 5,980 yen (50 U.S. dollars)
Resistance:FoM 5,980 yen (50 U.S. dollars)
Gundam: TIS 7,329 yen (62 U.S. dollars)
RR7 7,329 yen (62 U.S. dollars)
Koei's Mahjong game 5,040 yen (42 U.S. dollars)
AC4 8,190 yen (69 U.S. dollars)
Sonic 7,140 yen (60 U.S. dollars)
1st party games seem to be cheaper, and From Software's game looks pretty expensive.
rabidrabbit
03-Oct-2006, 10:17
Yea, a backlighting at least would have been nice for the remote, as it is I think it'll be quite useless for me as my room willbe pretty dark because I have a front projector for Blu-ray moveis and PS3.
I guess there'll be a better Logitech 3rd party remote quite soon anyway, maybe even a new "Harmony" remote which will have PS3 compatibility and Bluetooth plus IR.
No Sony keyboard and mouse for PS3? A kb with a crosspad and triangle, circle, square, cross buttons for easy XMB navigation and typing on the same device would be great.
Logitech, I have my faith on you! Bring me a backlit keyboard tailored for PS3!!
hmm... Games might be priced in japan as well...
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/2006/10/03/103,1159855395,61170,0,0.html
Konami's Mahjong game 5,229 yen (44 U.S. dollars)
SEGA GOLF CLUB 7,140 yen (60 U.S. dollars)
Genji 5,980 yen (50 U.S. dollars)
Resistance:FoM 5,980 yen (50 U.S. dollars)
Gundam: TIS 7,329 yen (62 U.S. dollars)
RR7 7,329 yen (62 U.S. dollars)
Koei's Mahjong game 5,040 yen (42 U.S. dollars)
AC4 8,190 yen (69 U.S. dollars)
Sonic 7,140 yen (60 U.S. dollars)
1st party games seem to be cheaper, and From Software's game looks pretty expensive. The 1st party titles (Resistance and Genji) are unexpectedly cheap for Japanese pricing, probably due to the universal disc around the world.
For the reference, Dragon Ball Z Sparking NEO for PS2 is 7140 yen, Dead Rising for Xbox 360 is 7980 yen, and Zelda Wii is 6800 yen (all tax incl.).
EDIT: English PR, and 7 players for simultaneous use confirmed
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/061003e.pdf
cthellis42
03-Oct-2006, 12:46
That remote just doesn't look right without a nunchuck attached... ;)
rabidrabbit
03-Oct-2006, 13:04
I don't get it why they must make the remote buttons so small and alike and close to each other.
There is a lot of empty space on that remote, there would have been plenty of room for a less cluttered design.
Ok, I understand it's prefererred for the sake of ergonomics to not have buttons all the way to the bottom of the remote, to be able to access all the buttons without sliding your hand up and down the remote, but even accounting the empty space needed, there's still a lot of room for bigger, more defined buttons.
Logitech, I have my faith on thee.
inefficient
03-Oct-2006, 13:36
It would be cool if the PS3 remote was also SIXAXIS!
Hello Wii-mote! :smile:
Bad_Boy
03-Oct-2006, 13:43
PS3 peripherals:
Six-Axis Wireless Controller:
5000 Yen
Can be charged with the USB cable
A full charge last up to 30 hrs.
Lithium ion accumulator
hmm...ign is saying 30 minutes to recharge. Is that right 30 minutes recharge gets you 30 hours? I'm guessing a mistranslation somewhere?
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/736/736932p1.html
Sony also revealed today a few new bits about the controller. Each controller will have a Lithium Ion battery built in. You'll be able to connect to the PS3 via USB to charge the battery, with a single charge taking 30 minutes. And yes, you'll be able to play games while the controller is charging. It's unknown if Sony will be including a USB cable with the controller.
StefanS
03-Oct-2006, 13:48
hmm...ign is saying 30 minutes to recharge. Is that right 30 minutes recharge gets you 30 hours? I'm guessing a mistranslation somewhere?
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/736/736932p1.html
I checked back to the famitsu article and it definitely says up to 30hrs with a full charge. There's no mention of how long the charging takes. I don't know where IGN / famitsu has their info from.
EDIT: The official site (http://www.jp.playstation.com/info/release/nr_20061003_ps3_peripheral.html) says also 30 hrs with a full-charge. So IGN might have it wrong.
Bad_Boy
03-Oct-2006, 13:55
Yeah a 30 minute charge sounded too fast to me. I'm guessing it might be a hour or so.
Thanks for clearing that up.
30 minutes sounds pretty plausible. It's not like the sixaxis is doing a whole lot more than say, my blackberry phone, especially with no rumble included. The PSP can also recharge quite well over a USB cable (though it has to have an adapter that goes into the power plug rather than directly recharge over the USB port, which would have been even nicer)
But we'll know the final answer soon enough. I'm just overall happy that it works with USB, and am also interested in how long the included USB cables are going to be. A great advantage of such standard stuff is that you can get extension cables easily enough, but it would still be nice if the included cables are at least as long as the ones on the DS2.
Sony's got some fast-charging battery tech (see, there are some advantages to Sony batteries! ;) ), and a product like their Walkman 'Bean' is a good example of some products that use it. So I wouldn't be surprised if that's the sort of battery tech that gets used here as well.
I just hope that Sony's recent battery fiasco doesn't slash their R&D budget at that division!
Super Quick Battery Charge3
A three minute charge will provide up to three hours of playback.
Up to 50 Hours4 of Playback Life with Rechargeable Embedded Battery
Internal battery provides up to 50 hours of continuous playback on each charge.
http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=NWE307BLACK
archie4oz
03-Oct-2006, 15:38
Keep in mind that Sony already has other devices with pretty quick charge capability. Most of their current flash mp3 players can get a 75% charge off of USB in 3min... So a 30min charge time isn't entirely unreasonable...
digitalwanderer
03-Oct-2006, 15:38
30 minutes sounds pretty plausible.
I've gotta agree, it does sound feasible to me too.
Bad_Boy
03-Oct-2006, 15:44
I stand corrected then. :lol:
30 minute recharge is impressive, atleast to me anyways. :)
Bobbler
03-Oct-2006, 17:24
I stand corrected then. :lol:
30 minute recharge is impressive, atleast to me anyways. :)
It's impressive, but not unheard of. Definitely appreciated. Even if it only lasts 10 hours, with a ~30 minute recharge time it wouldn't be so bad.
I'm surprised they aren't trying to charge more for this stuff. I like the price of the mem card adapter! And the JP game prices actually seem pretty reasonable compared to last gen (7k yen PS2 games were not uncommon, IIRC).
Shifty Geezer
03-Oct-2006, 17:49
It seems as though Sony have flip-flopped on pricing and are trying to keep costs down. Which is understandable given the hefty price of the console.
As for battery tech, Sony are pioneers of rechargeable lithiums and have always been offering the best tech. Of course sometimes cutting edge has problems like exploding batteries... Still, it'd be nice if they could get a better PSP pack out. And really, they ought to be doing as much with fuel cells as they are rechargeables. Though rechargeables makes more sense for a controller where it's far more convenient to charge of a cable then have to by replacement cells. Perhaps PS4 will have a methanol fuel line? :D
rabidrabbit
03-Oct-2006, 18:34
What do you get when you spell Sixaxis backwards.... SIXAXIS!
Yea, I only just noticed that :)
StefanS
03-Oct-2006, 18:59
What do you get when you spell Sixaxis backwards.... SIXAXIS!
Yea, I only just noticed that :)
It's a palindrome.
Ben-Nice
03-Oct-2006, 19:02
They should have just said. "all are games are $50". They would probably immediatly gain a huge edge over the competition.
Still, it'd be nice if they could get a better PSP pack out.
Do you have a PSP? And if so, how long have you had it?
Lets just hope those batteries in the controller dont explode in our hands. :lol:
So, you want your damn force feedback or you don't?
It would be cool if the PS3 remote was also SIXAXIS!
Hello Wii-mote! :smile:
I'd love it, if only to read the reactions from the Nintendo fan persons.
Internet is better and a worse place, at the same time, thanks to Nintendo fans.
Their usual tirades about how Nintendo, as a monolithic entity, invented virtually everything and thus should be the only company allowed to sell products using the technology they pioneered because of some immanent, unsaid and unwritten, law never get old. It can enter the realm of the pathos, at times, though. :p
Guden Oden
05-Oct-2006, 19:22
I'd love it, if only to read the reactions from the Nintendo fan persons.
I wouldn't have anything against it per se. Hey, the more the merrier, right? :D However, there's a few things that screws with this scenario. The main stumbling block (totally disregarding software support and sony management etc) would be overall design IMO; a sixaxis remote for PS3 would have buttons all over where the fleshy part of your thumb/hand lies across it, leading to huge problems actually playing with the thing. Ergonomics would be crap, because a remote is too wide to be held comfortably IN the hand rather than just grabbed briefly and well, be controlled... That's why the wiimote looks the way it does.
Internet is better and a worse place, at the same time, thanks to Nintendo fans.
Ha. I think all sides are equally bad, they say pretty much the same things using slightly different arguments. For example, I could never imagine bill gates would get young teenage-aged fanb0ys before I heard they were making a games console over at microsoft. It just wasn't possible to envision; few really LIKED MS back then.
I don't have the patience for fannishness anymore. I was much too big a fan myself once, for nintendo and against sega on consoles, and then for commodore and against atari on computers... Then I grew up, and, um well, grew old. :D It's such a bother, now I just buy all the major consoles and enjoy the best sides from each of them.
Bad_Boy
05-Oct-2006, 19:40
So, you want your damn force feedback or you don't?
I think exploding controllers might be more force feedback and anybody can handle. :lol:
-NakedZ-
05-Oct-2006, 23:47
Anyone know what [plastic] material Sony is using for the controllers? Because I believe the earlier DS2's are a lot sturdier than the newer one (I'm not sure if this is before or after Sony's peripheral price drop).
.Z
Powderkeg
06-Oct-2006, 01:59
hmm...ign is saying 30 minutes to recharge. Is that right 30 minutes recharge gets you 30 hours? I'm guessing a mistranslation somewhere?
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/736/736932p1.html
I suspect that's true. I can get my 360 controllers charged in about 30 minutes, and get about 20-25 hours of use out of them with the rumble turned on. Certainly Sony's batteries can charge up in about the same amount of time, and another 10 hours of use without rumble seems about right.
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