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Hardknock
22-May-2006, 11:58
http://www.xboxyde.com/news_3030_en.html

Looks really good (for such a simple ice level).

Here's one of his new moves:

http://kuroyume.hotarubi.net/animated/ice.gif

:razz:

Zaphod
22-May-2006, 12:24
Did he just punch through solid ice thick enough to walk on with his bare fist while under water? Really, now... That's some 'superspy' power.

rusty
22-May-2006, 12:30
Did he just punch through solid ice thick enough to walk on with his bare fist while under water? Really, now... That's some 'superspy' power.


it's all in the wrist.....



i agree - seems somewhat hard to believe (although, having never tried to punch through a few inches of ice whilst submerged beneath a gun toting enemy, i can't go off any personal experience :lol:) which is a shame as the splinter cell series is usually very good in that respect.


the video looks okay, but i can help but be a little dissapointed in the graphics given the graphical coup de gras that the original (and indeed later, CT) was on the xbox. I'm eager to get past this one and see what Ubi montreal can give us on the next gen machines.

london-boy
22-May-2006, 12:47
Looks to me like he's actually sticking two "things" like hooks or something, to create some sort of handle he then pulls with all his body using his legs to help him, breaking the ice. Even then, it doesn't make it much more believable, but certainly more believable than punching through thick ice while underwater.

rabidrabbit
22-May-2006, 13:02
At least you can shoot the lamps in this game ;)
That breaking through the ice is really a silly inclusion, with added silliness because he's actually pulling the ice that apparently can carry a man on the surface into the water without much resistance from the water mass!
Well, maybe you must search for very thin spots of ice where you can break thru, instead of being able to do it anywhere.

NANOTEC
22-May-2006, 13:12
without much resistance from the water mass!

:?:

rabidrabbit
22-May-2006, 13:33
:?:
Well, first the ice must be about 2 inches thick to carry a single man, and that's with solid strong ice.
Punching through such ice isn't that easy as some might think, and punching underwater even more so.
In the video, I think he is punching a hole through, then pulling the ice into the water so it shatters. Not attaching some hook in the ice and pulling from there as first seemed (which would've made it even more impossible).
That scene is just completely unrealistic, but that's ok 'cos things often are in games and movies. If it makes for exciting gameplay, I don't complain.
Any more questions?

Bad_Boy
22-May-2006, 13:59
Looks cool, I'd digging the variety of moves you can do. Though I hate to say it, but I'm not really impressed with the graphics. I didnt see what everybody was raving about in the last thread, and I still dont. But It's more about gameplay and the gameplay does indeed look fun. Theres some speculation that this might come to the ps3 (but not announced yet of course), I hope thats true.

Shifty Geezer
22-May-2006, 14:31
:?:rabidrabbit means water pressure will be resisting the force moreso than even breaking the ice in air. Of course, if the man is standing on the ice it's already got that force, so you only need add enough to take it to breaking point. If Sam can apply the pressure of another person t the same spot, it's conceivable it'd break. Punching through the ice could be achieved by an impact-induced pressurised shot, perhaps a compressed gas cylinder driving the hook. When impacted, the hook is shot with extra force into the ice, then the combined pull force and weight of the gaurd makes it break. Obviously they researched this heavily and didn't just throw in a cool action to make for fun gameplay... :D

AlStrong
22-May-2006, 14:37
Maybe Sam took the death of his daughter much harder than we thought. :wink:


:shock:

predicate
22-May-2006, 15:16
arguing whether the ice could be broken in a videogame is dumb, guys.






he'd be a popsicle waaaaaay before he even had a chance to try in water that cold.

dskneo
22-May-2006, 16:05
arguing whether the ice could be broken in a videogame is dumb, guys.






he'd be a popsicle waaaaaay before he even had a chance to try in water that cold.

hey, remember the mighty bulb! it matters to some. B3d suffers....

NANOTEC
23-May-2006, 05:14
Well, first the ice must be about 2 inches thick to carry a single man, and that's with solid strong ice.
Punching through such ice isn't that easy as some might think, and punching underwater even more so.
In the video, I think he is punching a hole through, then pulling the ice into the water so it shatters. Not attaching some hook in the ice and pulling from there as first seemed (which would've made it even more impossible).
That scene is just completely unrealistic, but that's ok 'cos things often are in games and movies. If it makes for exciting gameplay, I don't complain.
Any more questions?

It didn't look like he punched through the ice. It look like he striked it to get a good grip with his right hand the used his legs to brace against the ice so he could pull and force the ice to crack. Water pressure has little effect when you're slowly pulling on the ice to cause it to crack. Water pressure only becomes a factor if you're trying to pull a large piece of ice under water. Once you've made it crack, everything else just happens naturally.

nintenho
23-May-2006, 06:03
http://www.xboxyde.com/news_3030_en.html

Looks really good (for such a simple ice level).

Here's one of his new moves:

http://kuroyume.hotarubi.net/animated/ice.gif

:razz:
What the hell?

-NakedZ-
23-May-2006, 14:15
I know it's off-screen, but that quality should be good enough to see good details. But I guess it's not the quality, but the lack in the game itself. Cause to be honest, animation looks kinda clunky. He hit the guy somewhere on the leg and he sunk like a stone. And when he dove, there were no splash or what so ever. I prefer the middle-eastern like level from the other gameplay vids. And I hope they add under water effects like in Metal Gear because it's too clean (although that maybe only because he's wearing a goggle).

.Z

AlStrong
23-May-2006, 14:24
hmm... the video kind of just looked like SC:CT on PC (his animations look identical save for the new move) and not so smooth. Need a direct feed.

rosman
23-May-2006, 19:50
Same engine, same animation, crappy framerate, far from being impressive so far. Little dissapointement tech-wise.

Dr. Nick
23-May-2006, 20:00
arguing whether the ice could be broken in a videogame is dumb, guys.






he'd be a popsicle waaaaaay before he even had a chance to try in water that cold.
You know people scuba dive in the artic right? I watched a program (PBSHD) a about a week ago of someone scuba diving in a glaziers believe it or not.

deathstar121
24-May-2006, 00:45
Damn the best Stealth series keeps getting better and better.

Lysander
26-May-2006, 23:55
Sam is living life we all want to but not dare to :grin:

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/9812/file0013b18xs.jpg
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/783/sc16lt.jpg
http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/1043/sc29ru.jpg

scooby_dooby
27-May-2006, 00:05
It looks good but doesn't live up to my expectations. Looks like we'll have to wait until #5 to get a true next gen version based on a new engine and *hopefully* made by Ubisoft MTL. I'd have much more faith in the Gameplay if the shanghai studio wasn't designing it. Look what they did to SC2: Pandora Tomorrow, not to mention the XBOX vesion of GRAW.

mckmas8808
27-May-2006, 00:10
I guess being on UE 2.5 doesn't help either.:sad:

pc999
27-May-2006, 00:36
Those ss are from the XB (1) version, right (?), at least the first one is one the XB/PS2/GC section in gamespot.

Lysander
27-May-2006, 00:43
I guess being on UE 2.5 doesn't help either.:sad:

Thank god that they using ue2.5, ue3 has some serious problems with tiling, bioshock and rainbow6 on 360 are all using custom modified ue2.5 and look at them (up and running). We didnt see final version yet of sc4, remember graw 3 months before release. :razz:

pc999
27-May-2006, 02:46
All on UE2.5 are you sure? WOW.

mckmas8808
27-May-2006, 04:02
All on UE2.5 are you sure? WOW.

Well Bioshock is part UE2.5 and part UE 3.0.

Eagle-Vision
27-May-2006, 21:48
I guess being on UE 2.5 doesn't help either.:sad:
WTF

Lysander
31-May-2006, 01:42
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YQNrDcOcPA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnAJM-qzrfY

animation is so-so, but i like what i see

mckmas8808
31-May-2006, 01:53
The animation looks just like the Xbox. But the graphics look great to me.

rusty
31-May-2006, 12:14
i agree the animation doesn;t seem much better than xbox, but then again splinter cell on xbox definately had some of the best animation around imo.... so whilst it's a shame that this doesn't lift the bar in that respect, being compared to the original isn't such a bad thing.


i'm still not sold on the graphics tbh - what i have seen doesn't look a lot better than GRAW from a visual standpoint, which again while not exactly bad, isn't raising the bar in the same way as the splinter cell series is renowned for.

but that said, it's still looking great and i'll probably pick it up anyway..... i just hope it gets some marked improvements between now and then a la GRAW, to make it a stronger first appearance on the new consoles.

scooby_dooby
31-May-2006, 15:36
ya the animation is identical to xbox, i really hope they fix that. Reading the new GI, PoP used 800 animations, assassin's creed uses 4000. All games should make that kind of step up in the animation department, I hope they give them a major upgrade before release.

Lysander
16-Jun-2006, 23:04
720p pics
http://xboxyde.com/news_3084_en.html

sonyps35
16-Jun-2006, 23:14
For some reason the graphics on this title are a letdown for me.

I really expected more from one of the most graphically impressive series ever in previous iterations.

I honestly thought for a long time that the 360 pics were Xbox pics mislabeled.

Lysander
16-Jun-2006, 23:34
This is my most anticipated (next to mass effect). It has more lighted environment, less blade runnerish. It intents to achieve something that pandora could not.

xatnys
17-Jun-2006, 00:55
That's some shiny blood. :p I hope this is as fun as the prior titles.

mckmas8808
17-Jun-2006, 05:33
Yeah I expected more too.