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Confidence-Man
14-Nov-2005, 17:25
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/news/news_story.php?id=129212
Although the official line from NCsoft is that the company "cannot specify explicitly what their console plans are", Geoff Heath, CEO of NCsoft Europe told MCV last Friday, "I don't want to spoil the party but our feeling is there's a definite lack of commitment at Microsoft to online gaming with 360. It's forcing us to consider what we should be doing. For a start it's not got a [guaranteed] hard drive, but generally the commitment is not there. It's a real shame."
I can't understand how this is the case. If anything it seems they have the most commitment.
Whoa! Didn't expect this one coming. Maybe the Koreans just like to do it their own way and Live isn't their style? Coupled with their recent announcement that they're working on PS3 this comment just seems all the more shocking in terms of what the status quo expectations were for dev preference. Or, it could just be another case of an allied dev saying things to undermine the 'opponent' in terms of public perception.
He's angling for something from MS. That's why NCsoft made two public statements in the past week... he's trying to get thier attention for some reason... it could have something to do with MS wanting to make a Marvel super hero game, since Marvel is suing NCsoft over city of heroes.
Shifty Geezer
14-Nov-2005, 17:50
Ummm...why cite a definite lack of HDD on XB360 as a reason not to develop for it, if you've gone public as committed to developing for PS3? This means one of two things...
1) This guy's babbling like a lunatic
2) Sony have decided to include an HDD as standard on PS3 :shock:
seismologist
14-Nov-2005, 17:57
I wouldn't be surprised if Square was given some preferrential treatment to be able to bypass Xbox Live. These guys are probably wanting the same deal.
I dont think there's a general plan to allow MMORPGs to bypass Xbox Live since those are potentially the biggest money makers...
Titanio
14-Nov-2005, 18:00
Have they commited to PS3?
I heard they had "actively working" on next-gen console titles, but no specifics. However Eurogamer did report earlier in the week that their sources said that Xbox 360 wasn't in their plans right now. Seems their sources weren't far wrong, but this is quite a strange statement, particularly since none of the consoles will have standard hard drives (at least as far as we know - maybe PS3's broad removeable memory support placated them? Multi-GB mem sticks will be cheap in PS3's life..). Maybe they are angling for something, as suggested previously.
edit - here's the Eurogamer report, for what it is worth:
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=61648
Korea-based online gaming giant NCsoft is preparing to launch titles on next-generation consoles, according to chief executive Tack Jin Kim, who confirmed to GamesIndustry.biz that development work is already underway.
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Kim did not discuss specifics of the company's development work on next-generation consoles, nor did he reveal which platforms the firm is working on - but sources close to NCsoft's European division revealed that Xbox 360 is not part of the company's plans at the moment, suggesting that the PS3 is the target platform for NCsoft's first console titles.
These new comments are a tad more explicit though.
Well the word is that NCSoft has commited to next-gen console development, and at the moment excluding 360. That almost by default means PS3, and maybe the Rev also. It's telling also that Sony was at the new Korean G-Star show whereas neither MS or Nintendo attended. It seems that Sony has been payng s fair bit of attention to Korea in recent years, the speed with which they have received expanded PSP apps and abilities being indicative of this. I don't think one can actually knock 360's online situation based on these comments - they just seem to disconnected - but it does give me some hope for PS3's would be service, because Korea is ground-zero for Internet gaming.
scooby_dooby
14-Nov-2005, 18:10
I dont think there's a general plan to allow MMORPGs to bypass Xbox Live since those are potentially the biggest money makers...
It's already been announced all MMO's will bypass live, or at least only requier Live Silver (which is free.)
That's not to say MS won't get a cut of the monthly fees though.
seismologist
14-Nov-2005, 19:13
Then I dont get how anyone could say MS isn't committed to online gaming. Seems like a joke. Unless we're witnessing the Sony money hats going to work.
drpepper
14-Nov-2005, 19:16
Ummm...why cite a definite lack of HDD on XB360 as a reason not to develop for it, if you've gone public as committed to developing for PS3? This means one of two things...
1) This guy's babbling like a lunatic
2) Sony have decided to include an HDD as standard on PS3 :shock:
I think it's likely number 1 but I'm hoping for number 2.
Inane_Dork
14-Nov-2005, 19:34
I was afraid of this. I don't know exactly what the cause is, but I saw it coming. The whole Marvel deal and Sony paying them off are the only two things I can pin anything on, though neither seem to be sufficient. NCSoft knew a long time ago about the non-standard HDD and about Live's workings. Surely those are not the issues. NCSoft was on the list of developers back around E3 time, I believe.
It seems like there has to be something in this which we have not seen yet.
Inane_Dork
14-Nov-2005, 19:35
I think it's likely number 1 but I'm hoping for number 2.Regularity problems again?
Powderkeg
14-Nov-2005, 19:43
MS and NCSoft have been at odds for several years now. This is really nothing more than a public statement reflecting their private spat.
It all began with the purchase of Phantagram and the cancellation of two high profile Xbox games which MS had given special assistance on their creation to that point.
typoEDR
14-Nov-2005, 19:48
It's the Revolution!
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Isn't NCSoft the team behind Guild Wars?
I don't know what got their panties all twisted up, but MS has pushed online gaming quite a bit. Sony has too, but Live, overall, has been far more successful.
I have the feeling these coming months are going to be pretty spectacular in terms of news and stuff.
see colon
14-Nov-2005, 19:55
It's the Revolution!
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Isn't NCSoft the team behind Guild Wars?
NCSoft are the publisher of guild wars, the developer is arenanet
beats me . I would tink that they would have alot to gain by supporting ms . Thier main dev platform is windows pcs and they have a ton of games that can be ported to the xbox 360 cheaply ( lineage 2 , guildwars , soon tabla rusa ) .
It must be something else holding it back , mabye money from sony to dev only for them or perhaps they just want cheaper royality fees ?
Accusing MS for not being commited to online just sounds to insane. Why not pick on something else more believable, I mean xbox live is MS connerstone, when it comes to their xbox strategy...
scooby_dooby
14-Nov-2005, 21:12
Well TBH if they were truly commited to the online experience they wouldn't have cut the HDD, or at the very least they would offer large MC's in the 512mb range so that all users would have the means to take full advantage of the online experience, which includes downloadable game trailers, demo's, game patches, and episodic content.
By phasing out the HDD (while providing a pethetic 64mb memory card) they are showing a lack of commitment to what they have claimed is their vision, which is an online community with people from all demographics.
IMO, they would've shown much more commitment by making the HDD the default storage device, by offering it at $60, and also offering at $40 a large memory card(512mb) that would be adequate for a solid online experience. By doing this you ensure that the vast majority will have the HDD, since it's only $20 more than the MC a much better deal, and even the people with MC's will still be able to download trailers and games from XBLive, as well as other downloadable content.
Of course, they preferred to try and make as much profit as possible off the peripherals, something I think is short sighted and stupid.
you don't need a hardrive to play online though you just need a memory card .
So i don't see how the no hardrive arguement holds up
scooby_dooby
14-Nov-2005, 21:35
But ms's vision to capture casual gamers does not revolve around gaming online. It revolves around everything else, XBLive marketplace, downloadable arcade games via XBLive, downloadable game/movie trailers etc
Some of it is maybe doable, but a 64mb card is peanuts, and offering at least a 128 or 256mb version(which is still not worth more than $40) would've shown much more commitment to the online community and less greed IMO.
It just seems like their sending out mixed messages, they say they want to capture the non-gamers by offering this great online community, however the package they offer that will most appeal to this non-gamer audience($299) can not really take advantage of this online community in any way other than play games, which is no different than xbox1's online services that did nothing for attracting non-gamers.
In other words, they way they've decided to implement things(i.e. overpriced HDD and much cheaper/smaller MC) means that not everyone that buys the console can take advantage of this online community. They could've done many things to mitigate this, such as a $60 HDD(since virtually everyone would buy the HDD at $60 vs a $40 MC), and a decent sized MC for the super-cheap bastards who wouldn't spend the extra $20 for the HDD.
Few casual gamers will be buying an xbox 360 right now .
So for all we know when the xbox 360 htis its 200$ price point next year or the year after there will be 60$ hardrives.
Your making claims about the future with no knowledge of it .
This is a console launch and prices of everything reflects it
Well, I hope their aren't $60 hard drives if they try and maintain a $100 price differential between the premium and the core versions. I much rather they keep the $100 price and start scaling up the size of the storage offered at that price.
Well, I hope their aren't $60 hard drives if they try and maintain a $100 price differential between the premium and the core versions. I much rather they keep the $100 price and start scaling up the size of the storage offered at that price.
I fully expect a 40 gig drive in 2006 or 2007 for a 100$ with the 20gb drive going down to 60ish .
Put the 40 gig drive in the premium bundle and keep the 100$ price premium
Lack of commitment in comparison to who? thats what I'd like to know.
scooby_dooby
14-Nov-2005, 21:46
Well, I hope their aren't $60 hard drives if they try and maintain a $100 price differential between the premium and the core versions. I much rather they keep the $100 price and start scaling up the size of the storage offered at that price.
Why? A $60 HDD is perfect, it fits the $100 differential much better. With a $60 HDD the core console actually becomes a decent buy, also the premium is still a great deal with a wireless controller, headset, remote control, faceplate and HDD.
I mean talk about choice, a $60 HDD actually gives choice, and flexibility, where the current packages do not, you either take the premium or you get jacked on the core, not a good choice IMO.
Anyways...you guys should know better than to get me started on the HDD....
as I said scooby its launch , many things will be overpriced nad they will fall in price over the coming months and years .
scooby_dooby
14-Nov-2005, 21:55
as I said scooby its launch , many things will be overpriced nad they will fall in price over the coming months and years .
That's a totally valid point, and you're right, these 'non-gamers' will not even be looking at the X360 right now.
However, I'm just seeing a trend and I don't like it.
That's a totally valid point, and you're right, these 'non-gamers' will not even be looking at the X360 right now.
However, I'm just seeing a trend and I don't like it.
when the ps3 launches i expect
75$ wifi connector
75$ 20 gig hardrive
I expect in 2007
65$ wifi
60$ 20 gig drive
100$ 40 gig drive
I also expect the core at 200$ and the premium at 300$
The premium will have the 40 gig ,
Why? A $60 HDD is perfect, it fits the $100 differential much better. With a $60 HDD the core console actually becomes a decent buy, also the premium is still a great deal with a wireless controller, headset, remote control, faceplate and HDD.
I mean talk about choice, a $60 HDD actually gives choice, and flexibility, where the current packages do not, you either take the premium or you get jacked on the core, not a good choice IMO.
Anyways...you guys should know better than to get me started on the HDD....
Well for me I guess a $60 HDD would make the 'core' the definite choice for me. I would prefer wired anyway. Not to mention that remote is only for the limited edition 'release' premiums as well, so it comes down to the wireless controller, the HDD, mic, and face plate.
The face plate's a joke, so...
Anyway I see where you're comign from - it is indeed good for choice, but if they went the $60 HDD route later in the ge, I would hope that they drop the memory card down to $20 or something as well, because $40 memory cards being sold along $60 hard drives is just an abomination.
EDIT: How did we get to this topic in this thread? We should go back to the topic at hand, since there's already HDD/360 discussion elsewhere.
scooby_dooby
14-Nov-2005, 22:04
Well, the comments that are the topic of this thread can only be attributed to MS's decision to not include the HDD in all consoles. Where else could they be "lacking in commitment"?
Anyways, I'll all HDD-ed out so...
Alpha_Spartan
14-Nov-2005, 22:20
MS not committed to online gaming with Xbox 360???
Wait a minute, am I fucking missing something here? That's like saying that Sony isn't committed to Blu-Ray with the PS3. That's like saying Nintendo isn't committed to its franchise games with the Revolution.
This has to be the worst self-ownage I've ever seen. Some one at NCSoft definately sucks at PR.
Maybe some Sony-style moneyhats made their way to NCSoft.
"We don't have an online plan. You guys wanna be it?"
These guys better not do any PS3 online games.
Since it has no built in Hard Drive, that means Sony is not committed.
MS at least is giving the HD a SKU and a push. Is Sony even doing that?
If they do any future online PS3 games, we will know the story.
mckmas8808
15-Nov-2005, 01:42
These guys better not do any PS3 online games.
Since it has no built in Hard Drive, that means Sony is not committed.
MS at least is giving the HD a SKU and a push. Is Sony even doing that?
If they do any future online PS3 games, we will know the story.
Will technically we don't know if the PS3 will come with the HDD or not.
Fafalada
15-Nov-2005, 01:43
Ummm...why cite a definite lack of HDD on XB360 as a reason not to develop for it, if you've gone public as committed to developing for PS3?
I could be missing something, but I've never heard anything of the sorts from NCSoft. In fact from what I know a month or two ago they didn't even have PS3 kits yet.
As for the comments made - IMO they are simply the inevitable backlash to MS not making the HDD standard.
As a matter of fact, the Only reason certain developers in Korea were interested in supporting X360 at all - was the promise of the standard HDD. If we see backpedalling and/or scaling back of support, it will not surprise me in the least.
I could be missing something, but I've never heard anything of the sorts from NCSoft. In fact from what I know a month or two ago they didn't even have PS3 kits yet.
As for the comments made - IMO they are simply the inevitable backlash to MS not making the HDD standard.
As a matter of fact, the Only reason certain developers in Korea were interested in supporting X360 at all - was the promise of the standard HDD. If we see backpedalling and/or scaling back of support, it will not surprise me in the least.
Aren't the xbox 360s in japan and other asian markets going to come with the hardrives.
I.e japan has a 350$ unit with drive ?
Wll, I'd like to see similar comments from them if PS3 doesn't have a built in HD.
Which of course it wont, because a built in HD is stupid. People just want MS to be crippled by including it when Sony doesn't.
Inane_Dork
15-Nov-2005, 01:54
As for the comments made - IMO they are simply the inevitable backlash to MS not making the HDD standard.
As a matter of fact, the Only reason certain developers in Korea were interested in supporting X360 at all - was the promise of the standard HDD. If we see backpedalling and/or scaling back of support, it will not surprise me in the least.But MS made this information known quite a while ago. Surely they would have backed out before now.
Anyway, at least MS is selling the HDD. And I mean "selling" as in "making it appealing." Sony hasn't really done that yet.
Inane_Dork
15-Nov-2005, 01:55
Will technically we don't know if the PS3 will come with the HDD or not.Haven't we heard at least two confirmations that it won't? I have a feeling that Sony will confirm this later on and we'll get a BIG response here like when Nintendo said they're not supporting HD for the 4th time. Maybe the system will just have to come out before people believe it.
ManuVlad3.0
15-Nov-2005, 01:58
He's angling for something from MS. That's why NCsoft made two public statements in the past week... he's trying to get thier attention for some reason... it could have something to do with MS wanting to make a Marvel super hero game, since Marvel is suing NCsoft over city of heroes.
Lineage and City of Heroes. Believe: they have attention ;)
There is no way PS3 has a hard drive in every SKU. I'll bet anyone here big money on that. Big money.
Look people the hard drive is a competitive disadvantage. That's obvious.
Fafalada
15-Nov-2005, 02:15
Aren't the xbox 360s in japan and other asian markets going to come with the hardrives.
I have no idea - I haven't seen a single piece of info about what MS plans are for asian regions outside Japan.
And Japan is the one market most Korean gaming companies don't give a squat about.
Wll, I'd like to see similar comments from them if PS3 doesn't have a built in HD.
They would need to commit to PS3 development first...
But MS made this information known quite a while ago. Surely they would have backed out before now.
It depends what kind of commitment has been made :P And maybe they were/are still hoping to force MS to change the HDD policies in regions of their interest.
At any rate I don't see why people keep dragging Sony into this argument - NC barely touched the Playstation in the past, and hasn't exactly shown any signs of changing that in the future, so I don't know what the heck money hat theorists are going on about.
I have no idea - I haven't seen a single piece of info about what MS plans are for asian regions outside Japan.
And Japan is the one market most Korean gaming companies don't give a squat about.
thanks , hopefully they keep the pricing like that in korea and other asian markets though.
Can only hlep there where mmorpgs are like a second religion
Inane_Dork
15-Nov-2005, 03:20
At any rate I don't see why people keep dragging Sony into this argument - NC barely touched the Playstation in the past, and hasn't exactly shown any signs of changing that in the future, so I don't know what the heck money hat theorists are going on about.Um... earlier this week NCSoft confirmed next-gen console development and then pointed out they were not actively developing an X360 games. Do you think they'd go for a Rev game?
Besides, they're putting out enough content on PC. If they put out more games, they'll be competing with themselves. To grow, they need to hit a new audience. Hence, console development.
robofunk
15-Nov-2005, 03:42
If you watch the 25min PGR3 interview Xbox Live! sounds very very flexible in terms of servers this time around. NCSoft must be trying to cut a deal.
winstonsmith1978
15-Nov-2005, 03:49
Um... earlier this week NCSoft confirmed next-gen console development and then pointed out they were not actively developing an X360 games. Do you think they'd go for a Rev game?
Besides, they're putting out enough content on PC. If they put out more games, they'll be competing with themselves. To grow, they need to hit a new audience. Hence, console development.
Thats's actually kind of interesting since the rev supports sd memory and ps3 supports everything. So maybe NCSoft will ship some form of memory with the game and make the money back in monthly payments. + the rev controller would be nice for NCSoft Games.
Thats's actually kind of interesting since the rev supports sd memory and ps3 supports everything. So maybe NCSoft will ship some form of memory with the game and make the money back in monthly payments. + the rev controller would be nice for NCSoft Games.
sd memory will be very expensive and also slow compared to a drive
For that matter ncsoft can ship a 20 gig usb hardrive (now about 50ish) with each title on the xbox 360 .
scooby_dooby
15-Nov-2005, 03:55
Um... earlier this week NCSoft confirmed next-gen console development and then pointed out they were not actively developing an X360 games. Do you think they'd go for a Rev game?
Or maybe they're signaling their discontent with MS, making a public statement that if they are not appeased they will develop for another of the next-gen systems?
mckmas8808
15-Nov-2005, 04:02
Or maybe they're signaling their discontent with MS, making a public statement that if they are not appeased they will develop for another of the next-gen systems?
That's probably what's really going on.
Fafalada
15-Nov-2005, 04:46
Um... earlier this week NCSoft confirmed next-gen console development and then pointed out they were not actively developing an X360 games.
Afaik they weren't actively developing anything on a console recently, so that's really not saying much at all.
Besides, they're putting out enough content on PC. If they put out more games, they'll be competing with themselves. To grow, they need to hit a new audience. Hence, console development.
Oh I completely agree with that, but you'd be surprised at how many seemingly illogical decisions companies around here tend to make.
Besides, NCs current model with titles like Lineage is built entirely around having local computer storage - they constantly release new content - not just patches and tweaks - actual new game content/chapters - which is also the main reason why Lineage 2 is beating the snot out of WoW in Korea by now.
So this model will not work too well if a console has no standard large-scale local storage.
OtakingGX
15-Nov-2005, 04:56
Besides, NCs current model with titles like Lineage is built entirely around having local computer storage - they constantly release new content - not just patches and tweaks - actual new game content/chapters - which is also the main reason why Lineage 2 is beating the snot out of WoW in Korea by now.
So this model will not work too well if a console has no standard large-scale local storage.Lineage II has been kicking the snot out of WoW in Korea since it was released, a full year before WoW was released in the US. WoW's user base is growing faster than Lineage II's, though, and will probably pass it up early next year. You can check it out for yourself: http://www.mmogchart.com/
Fafalada
15-Nov-2005, 05:34
Those charts would be worldwide?
At any rate, it doesn't seem to cover second half of 2005 for WoW (even less for Lineage).
From the info I heard WoW was growing faster early on when it came out (late 2004&early 2005) but has since leveled off - in Korea that is.
Unless they resume development for Strident and Duality I don't really care for what NCsoft might think, sure MMORPGs are big and all but still, not really very popular in the console market...
Um... earlier this week NCSoft confirmed next-gen console development and then pointed out they were not actively developing an X360 games. Do you think they'd go for a Rev game?
Interesting.
Ever been to the Korean version of E3? I have. Besides being about 1000x smaller than our E3 (which is just a freaking zoo nowadays), there was nary a console game in sight. Even met Garriott there (both of them). Kind of hard not to miss him, the only Caucasian dudes there.
Might have something to do with zero console presence in Korea (which might have something to do with animosity towards Japan - but I'm not 100% sure about this second part).
Had the best Kal-bi and Bulgogi I ever had in my life. Soju was awesome too (and I don't even drink). Man, it went down like water... Sorry, I drifted off topic.
Inane_Dork
15-Nov-2005, 07:15
Besides, NCs current model with titles like Lineage is built entirely around having local computer storage - they constantly release new content - not just patches and tweaks - actual new game content/chapters - which is also the main reason why Lineage 2 is beating the snot out of WoW in Korea by now.
So this model will not work too well if a console has no standard large-scale local storage.It would not work well if the console does not have a popular large scale local storage. Standard is not really the issue, since MMOs can require the HDD be attached permanently. Say the percentage of X360 owners with HDDs is 60%. Isn't that plenty to make a profit from? Especially given that MMO players are more likely to own a HDD either for other MMOs or just because they tend to be more technically "with it"? There's a tendency to think of everything nonstandard as totally undependable, but I don't think that's going to be the case with the X360's HDD.
I really don't think that's it. If it is, NCSoft is screwy.
Fafalada
15-Nov-2005, 08:32
Standard is not really the issue, since MMOs can require the HDD be attached permanently.
Can they? I am not sure about 360 TRCs right now - but I thought I remember hearing MS mandates every title must work with no HDD attached.
If they aren't willing to bulge for NC on this issue, this could very well be the source of complaints.
which might have something to do with animosity towards Japan - but I'm not 100% sure about this second part
Nah, XBox failed even worse in Korea then it did in Japan, and I don't see anything Japanese about it :razz:
Console market is not very big yet - Korean game companies are extreme case of doing "the safe" thing, aka, copy what everyone else does - PC MMO. Most publishers are scared of even touching consoles.
Inane_Dork
15-Nov-2005, 09:29
Can they? I am not sure about 360 TRCs right now - but I thought I remember hearing MS mandates every title must work with no HDD attached.
If they aren't willing to bulge for NC on this issue, this could very well be the source of complaints.I have no ironclad proof, but I'm sure I recall reading/hearing it. Well, we may find out very soon when the FF XI beta hits the system.
Can they? I am not sure about 360 TRCs right now - but I thought I remember hearing MS mandates every title must work with no HDD attached.
If they aren't willing to bulge for NC on this issue, this could very well be the source of complaints.
That seems to be the most reasonable reason for these statements. Not so much that not every console will not have a HDD, as Inane said most likely those that NCsoft are aiming at most likely will have one, but maybe that MS will not allow for HDD only games. On the other hand we know that you can only have BC with HDD, so maybe they will allow some online only games to be also HDD only, we will see...
Confidence-Man
15-Nov-2005, 10:01
That seems to be the most reasonable reason for these statements. Not so much that not every console will not have a HDD, as Inane said most likely those that NCsoft are aiming at most likely will have one, but maybe that MS will not allow for HDD only games. On the other hand we know that you can only have BC with HDD, so maybe they will allow some online only games to be also HDD only, we will see...
Final Fantasy requires the HDD. That's why there's no core system in Japan.
Shifty Geezer
15-Nov-2005, 10:45
For context, mostly for Faf : http://www.gamesindustry.biz/news.php?aid=12917
Korea-based online gaming giant NCsoft is preparing to launch titles on next-generation consoles, according to chief executive Tack Jin Kim, who confirmed to GamesIndustry.biz that development work is already underway.
Reason to believe it's not XB360 is
Kim did not discuss specifics of the company's development work on next-generation consoles, nor did he reveal which platforms the firm is working on - but sources close to NCsoft's European division revealed that Xbox 360 is not part of the company's plans at the moment, suggesting that the PS3 is the target platform for NCsoft's first console titles.
Plus this latest statement about MS 'not being serious about online'. Hence it's only logical to conclude they're developing for PS3 or Revolution, or both, seeing as they said consoles.
So why cite XB360 not supporting a standard HDD as a reason not to support that platform when the rivals don't? Unless they do?
Final Fantasy requires the HDD. That's why there's no core system in Japan.
Good to know, will FF come over to the western world as well, or is it Japan only. Because if it does then i guess it is OK to have HDD only games...
Maybe the 20GB HDD is too small for them? If you believe that BC occupies 7GB (http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25618), that is. After installing FF11 with ~10GB, you can't install another MMORPG.
Microsoft this week branded claims it ‘lacks commitment’ to online gaming as ‘disingenuous’, UK boss Neil Thompson insisting: “We are the people who have taken online gaming by the scruff of the neck.”
Thompson was responding to an article published in MCV last week (11/11), in which NCsoft Europe boss Geoff Heath said the firm had shelved plans for 360 development, stating: “For a start it’s not got a hard drive, but generally the commitment is not there. It’s a real shame.”
More: http://www.mcvuk.com/newsitem.php?id=608
Titanio
18-Nov-2005, 10:43
in which NCsoft Europe boss Geoff Heath said the firm had shelved plans for 360 development, stating: “For a start it’s not got a hard drive, but generally the commitment is not there. It’s a real shame.”
He didn't quite say that, did he? Maybe that's what he was suggesting, but he didn't explicitly say they wouldn't develop for it, just that they were forced to "consider things".
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