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Legion
29-Nov-2002, 00:01
Is there are VGA box for xbox that displays at 480p?
L233
29-Nov-2002, 02:07
Is there are VGA box for xbox that displays at 480p?

http://www.digital-x.de/knowhow/xbox/xbox_dx_vga_box/xbox_dx_vga_box.htm#9999

Compatible Monitors:
Monitors have to be able to work with an RGB S or RGB C/V signal. Please check with your monitor manual to ensure compatibility"
Legion
29-Nov-2002, 02:36
Is there anything else out there more readily available? I am of course assuming that getting ahold of this device won't be easy.
Legion
29-Nov-2002, 02:45
I am looking for something more along the lines of this device:

http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?category=53&products_id=1533&

Is it truly 480p standard?
L233
29-Nov-2002, 02:51
Is there anything else out there more readily in supply? I am of course assuming that getting ahold of this device won't be easy.

Not as far as I know. I guess a 480p capable VGA Box is just too "hardcore" to be offered by a brand name manufacturer with decent distribution.

That Digital-X outfit seems to be a tiny German niche vendor specialized in console mod chips and US import games.
PC-Engine
29-Nov-2002, 02:57
I am looking for something more along the lines of this device:

http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?category=53&products_id=1533&

Is it truly 480p standard?

That's not a true VGA box. It's a low quality transcoder or linedoubler.
DeathKnight
29-Nov-2002, 03:06
kgasper VGA box (http://xboxvga.xemulation.com/)
Ozymandis
29-Nov-2002, 05:17
I use this:

http://www.audioauthority.com/aacconsumers/9a62detc.html
KOF
29-Nov-2002, 22:17
I use this:

http://www.audioauthority.com/aacconsumers/9a62detc.html

Ozy, does that one also work with PSX2 and G^3, given that there are games supporting 480P? (ie. Rogue Leader & Tekken4)
theafu
29-Nov-2002, 22:19
Yes it does but isn't worth it unless you own an ps2 as xbox and cube have cheaper solutions!
fbg1
30-Nov-2002, 21:21
Is there are VGA box for xbox that displays at 480p?

Just do a Google search for "Xbox VGA Adapter". There are several out there that will turn up on Google. For your convenience:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Xbox+VGA+Adapter&btnG=Google+Search
Ozymandis
30-Nov-2002, 21:29
I use this:

http://www.audioauthority.com/aacconsumers/9a62detc.html

Ozy, does that one also work with PSX2 and G^3, given that there are games supporting 480P? (ie. Rogue Leader & Tekken4)

None of my Ps2 games support 480p, but yes it will work. That box will work with ANY 480p source, even a DVD player, for instance. I use it all the time with Gamecube (currently with Metroid). Basically it was a stop-gap solution until I got an HDTV, although lately I've been using it so I can use my headphones for sound until I finally get my home theater system for Pro-logic II/Dolby Digital.


Honestly, I have a hard time recommending a VGA adapter for Xbox or any game console save Dreamcast. The games aren't made for playing on a VGA monitor, and some of them seem to actually run at lower-than-VGA resolution. Not only that, but the horizontal resolution varies slightly, skewing the screen a bit and requiring tweaking.


Best solution for a primarily Xbox/Gamecube player- HDTV, no question, plasma ideally, otherwise I'd say CRT as I think projection TVs suck for gaming

Best solution for a primarily Ps2 gamer- high-quality analog set like a WEGA with component inputs. Ps2 + HDTV = nightmare

Just my 2 cents, having used all these displays at one point or another.
DeathKnight
01-Dec-2002, 01:20
kgasper VGA box (http://xboxvga.xemulation.com/)
Ehem ;)
Tagrineth
01-Dec-2002, 02:49
Best solution for a primarily Xbox/Gamecube player- HDTV, no question, plasma ideally, otherwise I'd say CRT as I think projection TVs suck for gaming

My GCN looks brilliant on my reverse-projection HDTV...

And with composite (great comb filter on this thing), N64, PSX, and DreamCast all look great too (don't have S-Video cables for any of 'em).

Granted I have to reset the convergence once every other month or so :P but that's no problem really.
Ozymandis
01-Dec-2002, 09:50
My GCN looks brilliant on my reverse-projection HDTV...

And with composite (great comb filter on this thing), N64, PSX, and DreamCast all look great too (don't have S-Video cables for any of 'em).

Granted I have to reset the convergence once every other month or so :P but that's no problem really.

I'm not saying they look bad on projection TVs... but I think that CRT HDTVs deliver a better picture for gaming. That's why I went CRT.

Of course, plasma is the best-looking, if you've got the big bucks that is :lol:
zurich
01-Dec-2002, 09:57
Plasma is atrocious for gaming... it may look nice, but thats until your health bar burns in after 15 minutes :)

If I had the money, I'd go for Sony's 34 inch CRT 16x9 HDTV. Has a VGA input as well (~$3400 CDN) :D
PC-Engine
01-Dec-2002, 11:40
Plasma is atrocious for gaming... it may look nice, but thats until your health bar burns in after 15 minutes


Projection TVs supposedly have the same problem, but I've been using a PTV for years and have not witnessed any "burn in"...

Even CRTs have "burn in" just go to the arcade. It all depends...
Legion
02-Dec-2002, 00:02
I've seen some terrible burn ins at arcades
Tagrineth
02-Dec-2002, 20:18
The burn in time is probably just different depending on the screen.

It does make sense on CRT's considering the phosphors surely can't last forever. :P

Neither of our rev.p. TV's have had any burn-in whatsoever.

And we went with a rev.p. because they tend to get a lot bigger than CRT's... :roll:
Ozymandis
02-Dec-2002, 22:01
Yeah, the extra size of rear-projection TVs is great... but I just haven't seen one that looked that good for gaming. I don't sit too far from my TV anyways (about 7 feet) so my 32 inch CRT HDTV is good enough for me :P



Anyone ever try an LCD for gaming? They don't get burn-in, right?
PC-Engine
02-Dec-2002, 22:17
Anyone ever try an LCD for gaming? They don't get burn-in, right?


I don't think LCDs get burn in because there is no heat generated by the actual pixels. LCDs are lit by a fluorescent bulb using a diffuser so the heat is actully coming from the bulb itself.
Legion
03-Dec-2002, 02:20
i've emailed all of these groups and none of them have responded to me.
covermye
03-Dec-2002, 12:17
I "game" on my Sony 11HT LCD Projector, which projects onto a 120", 16:9 screen. Very sweet when feeding it via XBOX component cables, not to mention the surround effects I get from feeding the digital audio to my Lexicon surround processor, which decodes it using "Logic-7" to all 7 channels...

I've got a PC in a rackmount case but haven't had a chance to add it to the rack with the rest of the equipment yet. I plan on using Powerstrip to output the Sony's native resolution (1366x768) to the PJ. Now all I need is one of those darned 9700 Pros...

But back to the subject: CRT's are difficult to "burn in" if calibrated correctly using a good calibration DVD (AVIA Guide to Home Theaters, etc...) Most cases of burn-in (especially at arcades) occur from the contrast being set wayyyyyy higher than it needs to be. Borrow someone's AVIA or HT Essentials DVD, calibrate your set, and you'll be amazed at where your contrast setting ends up to get a "proper" picture. While not totally preventable in the long run, it's not the problem people make it out to be if you take proper precautions (#1 - proper calibration).

-Chris