problems arise for some PSPs

[gokickrocks]

http://www.gamesarefun.com/news.php?newsid=4010'

[Guden Oden]

Yeah, so? They'll be solved through warranty returns. :roll:

[london-boy]

I think it's normal that a brand spanking Sony product might have flaws for some units the first few weeks. It's not like all PSPs are faulty...

But this made me laugh...

negativeions - 12.14.2004 at 10:04:58 PM
Sony makes me sick. Every single product they ever made is a flakey overpriced piece of garbage. Have they ever heard of durability? Why can't they improve their manufacturing process! For God's sakes, WHY!? You are a disgrace to your god damn country you stupid Japanese bastards. :shock: :shock: :shock:

megatron1179 - 12.14.2004 at 09:27:46 AM
They probably tried to build it to break down after a year and fucked up doing that. :lol:

legendarysword - 12.13.2004 at 10:24:38 PM
I feel sorry for those suckers that spent $500+ for theirs (not really). :lol:

counterattack - 12.13.2004 at 07:00:55 PM
I was all psyched about the PSP coming out, and now it seems as though it's mroe trouble than it's worth. :lol:


NICE SITE!!! :twisted:

[one]

Well it reflects how big the interest of people about PSP is :lol: Dead pixels and cartridge slipping off are more often reported for NDS too.

[PC-Engine]

Well it reflects how big the interest of people about PSP is :lol: Dead pixels and cartridge slipping off are more often reported for NDS too.

cartridge slipping off.....riiiiight.

[Evil_Cloud]

Well it reflects how big the interest of people about PSP is :lol: Dead pixels and cartridge slipping off are more often reported for NDS too.

So are the reports of people pouring water on their devices. :wink:

A cartridge based medium will always be more robust than an optical based medium, with spinning parts.

[rabidrabbit]

Would it not be harmful to the PSP to twist it in a manner that the UMD pops out... would such forceful twisting be harmful to any device :? Why would someone twist the PSP? Because it is a lenghty shape it tempts someone to twist it..... I have no urge to twist long objects, I have the urge to pull and rub them :?

Air bubbls in the screen, did someone forget to peel off the protective plastic sheet (if PSP has one when took out of box)

[london-boy]

Would it not be harmful to the PSP to twist it in a manner that the UMD pops out... would such forceful twisting be harmful to any device :? Why would someone twist the PSP? Because it is a lenghty shape it tempts someone to twist it..... I have no urge to twist long objects, I have the urge to pull and rub them :?

Air bubbls in the screen, did someone forget to peel off the protective plastic sheet (if PSP has one when took out of box)


That was my questiong.. How would you twist a PSP??? It's quite hard and it's not easy to twist hard things unless you forcefully try to.

[PC-Engine]

Actually that could be a problem during intense sessions considering it's basically just a controller with a screen. I don't know how much you have to twist it, but if it's not much then it's definitely not good especially if it's in your pocket when you sit down assuming it's pocketable.

[london-boy]

Actually that could be a problem during intense sessions considering it's basically just a controller with a screen. I don't know how much you have to twist it, but if it's not much then it's definitely not good especially if it's in your pocket when you sit down assuming it's pocketable.

I have used controllers since they were bigger than my hands, and i NEVER EVER have abused them as much as twisting them. Not the NES ones, Genesis, PS1, PS2... So this kinda comes as a surprise to me since PSP should actually be much heavier and resistant than those plastic flimsy things...

[rabidrabbit]

The PSP. or DS really are not meant to be carried in your trouser pockets. I don't think it would even come to most (sane) peoples minds to put a device of their sizes in such a tight place.
How many people even carry their cell-phones in their trousers back or front pockets, and they are much smaller than PSP r DS :lol:
There are at least two reasons such devices are not pocketable:
1. If you put it in your back pocket, it will fall off there when you walk.
2. If you put it in your front pocket, you'll feel like you're trying to walk with a massive hard-on inside your thight jeans.

[PC-Engine]

The PSP. or DS really are not meant to be carried in your trouser pockets. I don't think it would even come to most (sane) peoples minds to put a device of their sizes in such a tight place.
How many people even carry their cell-phones in their trousers back or front pockets, and they are much smaller than PSP r DS :lol:
There are at least two reasons such devices are not pocketable:
1. If you put it in your back pocket, it will fall off there when you walk.
2. If you put it in your front pocket, you'll feel like you're trying to walk with a massive hard-on inside your thight jeans.

Most people don't carry their cellphones in their pocket because when they receive a call while driving or sitting down, it very difficult to pull it out and by the time you do eventually pull it out your VM kicks in. :wink:

That's why MEN carry them on their belts while women usually keep it in their purse. I wouldn't carry a huge PSP on my belt becaue 1. You'd look like a dork. 2. You'd look like a dork that is showing off. :lol:

[london-boy]

The PSP. or DS really are not meant to be carried in your trouser pockets. I don't think it would even come to most (sane) peoples minds to put a device of their sizes in such a tight place.
How many people even carry their cell-phones in their trousers back or front pockets, and they are much smaller than PSP r DS :lol:
There are at least two reasons such devices are not pocketable:
1. If you put it in your back pocket, it will fall off there when you walk.
.

I keep my T610 in my front pocket at all times, so that when it vibrates i really know it does. It's small enough, but i would never put a PSP in my pocket. First of all because a PSP will probably never come to my possession, second of all, if it ever did, i wouldn't take it out of my house. ever. Which kinda kills the whole purpose i guess.

2. If you put it in your front pocket, you'll feel like you're trying to walk with a massive hard-on inside your thight jeans

Some people are used to it.

[rabidrabbit]

Well you're a perv with perv pleasures, so you don't count as "most people"

[PC-Engine]

Some people are used to it.

it very difficult to pull it out

[gokickrocks]

i keep my cell phone in my pocket, but then again its in a pocket made for cell phones :)

[PC-Engine]

http://www.gamesarefun.com/consoles/psp/button.jpg

That's a picture showing why the square button has problems ie it doesn't correctly align with the carbon contact patch, that's pretty poor design in my book.

[london-boy]

Nothing a very simple revision won't fix, but it is stragen it was never picked up before release.
I'm sure they had hundreds of Sony boys playing on prototype PSPs for hours.
Guess it explains why it only happens to a few units, not all of them.

[PC-Engine]

The way I understand it is that this is a PCB issue, so unless the first 200K used different PCB revisions, this problem may affect all 200K units.

[rabidrabbit]

No, it really doesn't seem he's twisting the PSP at all :?

But I do disagree about the Sony launch product quality.
My PS2 was bought at european launch, and it has had zero problems, even the original DualShock2 lasted until late last year whan the O button started to stick (I did fix that by opening it and cleaning the button contact from plastic dust that had collected there, but still I bought a new controller)

[london-boy]

No, it really doesn't seem he's twisting the PSP at all :?

But I do disagree about the Sony launch product quality.
My PS2 was bought at european launch, and it has had zero problems, even the original DualShock2 lasted until late last year whan the O button started to stick (I did fix that by opening it and cleaning the button contact from plastic dust that had collected there, but still I bought a new controller)

Dust?
.......... Dust doesn't get sticky........... Errrrrrr............ :wink: :twisted:

[rabidrabbit]

well, not sticky as the button stuck at the "on" position, but "sticky" in that it didn't always contact, so it kinda stuck on "off" position... should that have been "stucky"?

To this day I've restrained from using the DS as a sex toy, though it did cross my mind when played "REZ" and read abut some women enjoying the Trance Vibrator.

[Mulciber]

The PSP. or DS really are not meant to be carried in your trouser pockets. I don't think it would even come to most (sane) peoples minds to put a device of their sizes in such a tight place.
How many people even carry their cell-phones in their trousers back or front pockets, and they are much smaller than PSP r DS :lol:
There are at least two reasons such devices are not pocketable:
1. If you put it in your back pocket, it will fall off there when you walk.
2. If you put it in your front pocket, you'll feel like you're trying to walk with a massive hard-on inside your thight jeans.

Most people don't carry their cellphones in their pocket because when they receive a call while driving or sitting down, it very difficult to pull it out and by the time you do eventually pull it out your VM kicks in. :wink:

That's why MEN carry them on their belts while women usually keep it in their purse. I wouldn't carry a huge PSP on my belt becaue 1. You'd look like a dork. 2. You'd look like a dork that is showing off. :lol:

hah, yea, because its so easy to find something in a womans purse. i carry my phone in my pocket, but thats because its about 1/4 the size of a psp or a nds.

[Kalin]

The PSP. or DS really are not meant to be carried in your trouser pockets. I don't think it would even come to most (sane) peoples minds to put a device of their sizes in such a tight place.
How many people even carry their cell-phones in their trousers back or front pockets, and they are much smaller than PSP r DS :lol:
There are at least two reasons such devices are not pocketable:
1. If you put it in your back pocket, it will fall off there when you walk.
2. If you put it in your front pocket, you'll feel like you're trying to walk with a massive hard-on inside your thight jeans.

I agree you're not supposed to carry such a portable in your trouser pockets, as you wouldn't carry your Walkman or PDA, but the PSP and DS should definitely be designed for easy carrying without a backpack. E.g. in your jacket pocket. A non-pocketable PSP is a dead PSP, end of story, it's a light-weight home console with batteries and screen - far from Sony's PR and vision of a 21st century Walkman. This means it has to be prepared for exposure to significant twisting and vibrations - in a car, while riding your bicycle, jogging etc.

Nothing a very simple revision won't fix

This is a very poor excuse. It's called a low-quality product.

That said I have to question the validity of any early reports... We have to wait a little before making any conclusions on PSP quality, and I doubt it's a significant number of the units having any problems. Sony have the know-how to make a portable, with an exceptional quality.

[rabidrabbit]

You didn't jog or cycle with the 1st gen Walkmans, as they would have skipped a lot if you did
..or was it DiscMans :?

[Kalin]

You didn't jog or cycle with the 1st gen Walkmans, as they would have skipped a lot if you did
..or was it DiscMans :?

As you weren't expecting a lot of the battery of the first GameBoys, nor would you expect s SNES to support your widescreen HDTV... what's your point? The PSP with Sony's Connect service is trying to take on iPod, remember?

Again - I expect no skipping problems in PSP, judging from what I have been witnessing a MiniDisc Walkman take, while recording, and all, repeatedly, it's probably a minor set of the units being defective, which is nothing to write home about.

[Berserk]

doesnt seem that forceful to me. :lol:
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~cf6y-oot/umd/fly_004.avi
never buy a sony product at launch imo.

Oh come on! That's fake. What's the chance that it pops open when the ingame voice says "3, 2, 1 GOOO" and then the UMD flies out.... Yeah right :roll:

This is easily cheated by pressing the OPEN button yourself but hiding your fingers behind the PSP.

I don't believe this bullshit except the dust behind the screen, the dead pixels and bubbles maybe.

Now look at this

http://img130.exs.cx/img130/6594/6269fn.jpg

Which are fake, and which IS real?

[Teasy]

The PSP. or DS really are not meant to be carried in your trouser pockets. I don't think it would even come to most (sane) peoples minds to put a device of their sizes in such a tight place.
How many people even carry their cell-phones in their trousers back or front pockets, and they are much smaller than PSP r DS
There are at least two reasons such devices are not pocketable:
1. If you put it in your back pocket, it will fall off there when you walk.
2. If you put it in your front pocket, you'll feel like you're trying to walk with a massive hard-on inside your thight jeans.

Well if you constantly wear tight jeans then no you wouldn't be able to put a DS in your pocket (what sort of sane person always wears tight jeans? :)). But for the none tight jean obsessed its no problem. I've worked once or twice with a DS in my pocket (and no that's not a euthomism :lol:) and its not a problem. I think people need actually try something like this before commenting on it. Instead of just looking at a picture and guessing..

[darkblu]

Oh come on! That's fake. What's the chance that it pops open when the ingame voice says "3, 2, 1 GOOO" and then the UMD flies out.... Yeah right :roll:

i don't see a problem with that. if the psp is susceptible to twisting issues to a degree that it can open its disk bay what is the problem for people to master the mechanics causing that at will? question is, is the PSP frame that soft to twist?

[london-boy]

Oh come on! That's fake. What's the chance that it pops open when the ingame voice says "3, 2, 1 GOOO" and then the UMD flies out.... Yeah right :roll:

i don't see a problem with that. if the psp is susceptible to twisting issues to a degree that it can open its disk bay what is the problem for people to master the mechanics causing that at will? question is, is the PSP frame that soft to twist?

That was my question...

[see colon]

the twisting, i think, comes mostly from people holding the psp toghtly in their left hand while pushing the dpad/analoug stick with some force forward.

i cary my ds in my front pocket. i only buy pants large enough to accomadate my needs.

every sony optical drive i've ever owned has died on me. i have a panasonic cd player that i've had so long it doesn't support any cd-r/rw playback at all, that i've used exclusivly for years (untill i got a burner, actualy) that i've dropped twice while moving, and it still functions perfectly, dispite the dents and scratches to it's outer casing. i've owned 6 psx's and 2 sega saturns. both saturns still work, and i played them on the rug with the vents plugged for 2 months just to prove a point after sony wanted nearly the price of the system to fix a psx 3 days after the warrenty expired.

so as a disclaimer, i'm biased against sony hardware.

[Kalin]

the twisting, i think, comes mostly from people holding the psp toghtly in their left hand while pushing the dpad/analoug stick with some force forward.

i cary my ds in my front pocket. i only buy pants large enough to accomadate my needs.

every sony optical drive i've ever owned has died on me. i have a panasonic cd player that i've had so long it doesn't support any cd-r/rw playback at all, that i've used exclusivly for years (untill i got a burner, actualy) that i've dropped twice while moving, and it still functions perfectly, dispite the dents and scratches to it's outer casing. i've owned 6 psx's and 2 sega saturns. both saturns still work, and i played them on the rug with the vents plugged for 2 months just to prove a point after sony wanted nearly the price of the system to fix a psx 3 days after the warrenty expired.

so as a disclaimer, i'm biased against sony hardware.

A question: does it say Made in Japan, or Made in Malaysia? I've never seen a broken portable Sony product with the sticker "Made in Japan" on it. Lots of the Ms though...

[see colon]

does what say it? i've owned several sony products.

[Kalin]

does what say it? i've owned several sony products.

The Sony products that failed you - were they made in Japan?

[see colon]

to be honest, i'm not sure. ones that i can remember are....

mini-disk player
at least 2 "boom box" type cd players
a cd-r/rw drive
4 ps1's thateither quite working or only worked upside down
1 ps2 that was getting flakey so i sold it to eb

since i no longer have the broken items i can't check where they were made.

-edit-
i just wanna say that my bias against sony doesn't stop me from buying their gaming related stuff. i'm a gamer first and foremost. i just don't buy sony gaming hardware without an extended "covers everything" warrenty. that's also my policy with anything portable. anytrhing i can drop or scratch easily gets ESA'd.

[rabidrabbit]

I wonder from the video where the UMD flies from the PSP, how does it fly with such speed? If the disk door is ejected during play, will it pop out so that it flies several meters?

I'm starting to have my suspiscions that video is indeed fake. Was the disk door already open so that the disk is dropped (is the PSP actually held almost upside down, so the disk actually falls off downwards rather than springs from the PSP). As you know, most games do play from the buffer for a couple of seconds even after the disk is removed.

[StefanS]

Now look at this

http://img130.exs.cx/img130/6594/6269fn.jpg

Which are fake, and which IS real?

OK, I'll take the bait. The upper and the lower are definitely fake. Not sure about the one in the middle, I just can't tell. it might be real or he might not be.

[darkblu]

I wonder from the video where the UMD flies from the PSP, how does it fly with such speed? If the disk door is ejected during play, will it pop out so that it flies several meters?

I'm starting to have my suspiscions that video is indeed fake. Was the disk door already open so that the disk is dropped (is the PSP actually held almost upside down, so the disk actually falls off downwards rather than springs from the PSP). As you know, most games do play from the buffer for a couple of seconds even after the disk is removed.

then you haven't seen that other video where you can see an UMD almost poping out of the PSP bread-loafs-out-of-a-toaster-style when the bay is getting opened. i can easily imagine how the disk would get ejected away from the device if the latter is being held with the bay side down. plus, keep in mind the view angle of the flying disk video may only create the impression the disk flies far, it could just as well be predominantly downwards.

[thop]

Jeez, that's a lot of problems for the PSP. Sounds just like a SONY launch allright ;) And what's with the 1,5h-3h battery life for RR PSP i keep hearing about? I mean now that 200,000 PSPs are out do we STILL have no solid information on batterylife?

I wonder if SONY is gonna make a no dead pixel policy? With the money they're already losing on the PSP it's probably gonna be suicide.

[marconelly!]

I mean now that 200,000 PSPs are out do we STILL have no solid information on batterylife?
We have. There are many people reporting that you can play Ridge Racers for about 5 hours with max screen brightness.

[thop]

We have. There are many people reporting that you can play Ridge Racers for about 5 hours with max screen brightness.
Who are these people? 5h is definitely the max i've been hearing so far, while 1,5h-3h the min, so i guess the truth is somewhere in the middle. I mean how can people get so different numbers? It probably depends on playing habits, like spending time in the menu, switching tracks often and stuff like that. Also headphones/speakers and whatnot.

[rabidrabbit]

Those 2-3 hours with Ridge Racers that I've read have been when the PSP is fresh out of the retail box, i.e. the battery has not been fully charged.

[Fafalada]

Who are these people? 5h is definitely the max i've been hearing so far, while 1,5h-3h the min, so i guess the truth is somewhere in the middle.
It's not.
Take it from someone that measured actual consumption of different system components.

[Xenus]

Falf don't be so cryptic your not dave you know. :?

[Ty]

It's not.
Take it from someone that measured actual consumption of different system components.

There's little point in discussing positive facts with thop wrt Sony. He is not interested in them.

[Fafalada]

don't be so cryptic your not dave you know.
Sorry...
The GS numbers are BS, that better? :P

[Xenus]

That was obvious since it didn't fir with the rest. :?

[thop]

There's little point in discussing positive facts with thop wrt Sony. He is not interested in them.
Where did that come from?

Anyway, check out http://www.yuko2ch.net/psp/0dd57a54947e.swf - the internet at its best :D (Click the PSP). How can people come up with stuff like that so quick.

[jvd]

Well my friend is saying 4 hours and about 15 mins playing ridge racer . So i think the 5 hours is very believeable . Still much shorter than the 13 hours that i can get with mario 64 on the ds

[Cryect]

Oh come on! That's fake. What's the chance that it pops open when the ingame voice says "3, 2, 1 GOOO" and then the UMD flies out.... Yeah right :roll:

/me shrugs

If it is possible to get it to pop out like that then it wouldn't be too surprising someone can figure out how to do it reliablely. And really they don't do it right on go but takes them a second or two after that to get it to pop.


I don't believe this bullshit except the dust behind the screen, the dead pixels and bubbles maybe.

So the square button circuit elements being off centered is bullshit?

[mozmo]

Well about 22 months ago I bought a sony 42B1 plasma, it died and was unrepairable, fatal burn out inside the plasma glass. Luckily i attacked sony and got them to replace the unit even though my warranty had expired, they replaced it with a newer model called the 42X1. Anyways I got some messages from other members on a plasma board who has the same fault and same problems. For reference through fujitsu which make the plasma glass and use the same glass in their own set don't have this issue at all.

The moral of the story, these days sony imo quality is just not there anymore, I've had problems with their consoles , displays and it's no wonder they are loosing more and more market share in the consumer space to other companies because their overpriced products don't justify it anymore. I'm not at all surprised to see these big issues with the PSP this is just the norm for sony products imo. Especially considering it a product that's not sold at a profit, they're bound to cut corners on quality.

[see colon]

mozmo, i'm glad someone sees them my way. when my psx died (i had the first one i knew of, pre-ordered it and picked it up when the store opened) the "you have to play it upside down" problem wasn't well kown. looking back, if i would have swore more at the support rep i likely would have had my unit replaced.

kinda off topic... sony are marketing genius, though. look at the size and postion of the psp logo on the psp. in the back and where your hand's aren't gonna cover.

[Clashman]

Although I don't have anything personally against the PSP, (in fact, if anyone feels like sending me a Christmas... present ;)), but I've never had any sort of luck with Sony products. I never even bought a PS1 or 2, but I've had 3 or 4 discmen, several sets of headphones, and 2 or 3 CD/DVD drives. The only thing that has given me a satisfactory experience was one of the sets of headphones. I don't like these reports, but I don't find them completely unbelieveable, either.

[rabidrabbit]

Just to add another side to the discussion about the Sony build quality (as inevitably, any thread concerning a new Sony product in these boards seems to end up on that eventually :lol: )
I've had several Sony products through the years.

I think my first Sony was a CD player 222ES something, bought it in the early 90's, cost about €600 then. I still use it listening CD's in my HiFi system, it has had no faults and still works like new. Previously I had a Technics CD players, had no problems with that either but I didn't use it but for couple of years.

My next Sony was PlayStation, bought it around EU launch (for christmas).
Now this has had some heavy use, I got into console gaming with that and played it almost daily until I replaced it with PS2. The PlayStation continued it's service in my brothers house until they also bought a PS2 last year. The PS did have some skipping during my last sessions with it and FFIX, but my brother never complained about any skipping, so I guess it must've been the game.

Then I had a Sony 25" (4:3) TV around '96-2002. Replaced it with a thomson (RCA in US) 52" RPTV, but it also had zero faults during it's service.

PS2 I bought on EU launch day. It has been working with only one or two crashes that I've not been able to repeat, and a couple of non-working DVD discs (a well known incompatibility problem). Works like a charm, and also the original DS2 controller is in working condition (although I replaced it because the buttons started to feel a bit "loose". The new controller on the other hand has had a slight problem of one of the shoulder buttons not always returning properly back to upper position)

Then I bought a STR-DB840QS AV receiver around 2001-2002...has been working without faults.

A Sony something VHS, working good.

A DVP-NS730P DVD player replaced my PS2 as the primary DVD player, I bought it sometime at 2002, no problems yet.

A Sony DSC T1 digital camera that was bought spring 2004, no problems...

A SonyEricsson P900 phone for my bf, at christmas 2003, no problemos.

...that should be all the Sony stuff I own/owned.
And each of them have been working perfectly.

One might think I'm a Sony funboi for owning that much Sony stuff, but I do have gear from other makes too... and I've had very little, if none problems with them either.

Guess I'm just lucky, or then I just don't abuse my gear like some people.
or maybe Sony sells different quality product in different countries, I wouldn't buy a SONI from a Malaysian street market :lol:

If I were to buy a new AV receiver, TV or DVD I would though seriously consider products from other makers (most likely Pioneer, Yamaha, H-K). At the time I bought my current gear, IMO they were best with their features/cost/quality/design when I shopped around. For example the AV receiver was a discontinuing model, that was much better than the new models that were replacing it.
Yes i agree too. I see around me, the general reception towards Sony products are colder than ever. While they have no probs with how cool Sony designs are, but actually buying a Sony, hesitance step in, considering factors like better alternatives, pricing, build quality and forcing Sony format. You see that around you?
No, I really don't see it, except in some of the posts in this (and other) forums by people that are obviously heavily biased against Play Station.
The more "serious" media and real hobbyists are more rational, and I really don't see a "colder than ever reception" amongst them (witness the many awards by EISA (European Imaging and Sound Association) where Sony Wins 4 2004/2005 EISA Awards - More than any other company, Technical Image Press Association (TIPA), DIWA (Digital Imaging Websites Association), The exhibitions (E3 etc), the press reviews and consumer adoption (do sales numbers tell only that Sony is teh mastah hyP3R!)

Back to gaming, it is found that newer revisions of PS2, Sony start using "economical" parts like the laser coil which are more prone to overvolt and burn out. I guess that another "advantage" of in house, you can output parts aggressively, yet also know which corners to cut.
So now it is no longer the launch gear :? Are you now saying that Sony uses even worse quality than at launch, wasn't it supposed to be the launch quality that sucked :lol:

[passerby]

kinda off topic... sony are marketing genius, though. look at the size and postion of the psp logo on the psp. in the back and where your hand's aren't gonna cover.
Nothing beats the great, big, vomit-green X! Nothing!

[pakotlar]

as if you need a reminder of what company's product you are using.

possible scenario:

(you're playing RR on PSP)
"Hey this is really fun!"
(friend comes over)
"Hey man that looks really cool!" (looks at your PSP)
"If you could tell me what that cool portable is, I would buy one! I live in a cave and haven't seen it before..."
(you think carefully)
"UMMM. I think this is a Microsoft Xbox."

has the above ever happened to you?

[london-boy]

as if you need a reminder of what company's product you are using.

possible scenario:

(you're playing RR on PSP)
"Hey this is really fun!"
(friend comes over)
"Hey man that looks really cool!" (looks at your PSP)
"If you could tell me what that cool portable is, I would buy one! I live in a cave and haven't seen it before..."
(you think carefully)
"UMMM. I think this is a Microsoft Xbox."

has the above ever happened to you?

I don't have friends. Or electricity.

[rabidrabbit]

as if you need a reminder of what company's product you are using.

possible scenario:

(you're playing RR on PSP)
"Hey this is really fun!"
(friend comes over)
"Hey man that looks really cool!" (looks at your PSP)
"If you could tell me what that cool portable is, I would buy one! I live in a cave and haven't seen it before..."
(you think carefully)
"UMMM. I think this is a Microsoft Xbox."

has the above ever happened to you?
Um, yes... I've heard several times the xbox being called PlayStation X :lol:
Last time I heard was in my local supermarket, I think it was around last christmas, where a couple was buying a console (for their kid?) and they were pondering something like "was it the playstation 2 or playstation x we should buy?", and that wasn't the only occasion I heard it.
I would think now people are more aware that they are PS2 and xbox, and that they are not of same brand.
But it must have not hurt MS that some people associated the xbox with the PlayStation brand :lol:

[PC-Engine]

I've heard some people mentioning they wanted an XCube. :lol:

[london-boy]

My old flatmate kept calling my PS2 "Gameboy" for about 2 years, then i moved out (not because of that!!).

[Kalin]

Yeah, my coworkers do ask me from time to time to bring my Nintendo Xbox to play SoulCalibur in the smokers room ;)

[-tkf-]

The moral of the story, these days sony imo quality is just not there anymore

It's absolutely no problem finding whatever product from whatever brand and a list of problems.

I guess producing 70+ million PS2's gives you a big audience, every guy with an internet connection that has a PS2 that fails can scream about it.

And every Sony hater can help enhance that experience :D

It's a fact that every product has a lifespan based on build quality (price) usage and user and every company tries to maximise that time.

Considering how much a console gets used/abused it's pretty amazing they last so long for that price.

[pakotlar]

as if you need a reminder of what company's product you are using.

possible scenario:

(you're playing RR on PSP)
"Hey this is really fun!"
(friend comes over)
"Hey man that looks really cool!" (looks at your PSP)
"If you could tell me what that cool portable is, I would buy one! I live in a cave and haven't seen it before..."
(you think carefully)
"UMMM. I think this is a Microsoft Xbox."

has the above ever happened to you?
Um, yes... I've heard several times the xbox being called PlayStation X :lol:
Last time I heard was in my local supermarket, I think it was around last christmas, where a couple was buying a console (for their kid?) and they were pondering something like "was it the playstation 2 or playstation x we should buy?", and that wasn't the only occasion I heard it.
I would think now people are more aware that they are PS2 and xbox, and that they are not of same brand.
But it must have not hurt MS that some people associated the xbox with the PlayStation brand :lol:



:lol: :lol: :lol:

[jvd]

I guess producing 70+ million PS2's gives you a big audience, every guy with an internet connection that has a PS2 that fails can scream about it.


That isn't hte problem with sony hardware and products .


The problem is in the intial year of release . The hardware is just trashy . I have no problem buying a 2 year or 3 year old playstation 3 . Brand new mind you. By then sony would have all the bugs out . But the first set of playstations were infamous for thier failures . THe ps2 launch systems and the 4 or 5 months after were infamous for loosing the ability to play dvd ps2 games .

It seems like now the first generation of the psp will have the flying disc issues .

[Deepak]

Things like PSP/DS/Cell phone etc should naver be kept in trouser pockets, it can adversly affect your sperm production (lb, jvd are you listening)....for female maybe rabidrabit can throw some light.

[rabidrabbit]

Things like PSP/DS/Cell phone etc should naver be kept in trouser pockets, it can adversly affect your sperm production (lb, jvd are you listening)....for female maybe rabidrabit can throw some light.
:shock: Shouldn't you keep the females "it" away from bright light and water. I wouldn't throw a light on it if I were to spend a peaceful Christmas!
Besides that, I know absolutely nothing about that area of the penis-deficients.

[Johnny_Physics]

:shock: Shouldn't you keep the females "it" away from bright light and water.

No no no, you're thinking of vampires.

[Ty]

http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~cf6y-oot/umd/fly_006.avi

Heh, another take on the flying-UMD disk. This time attacking a DS.

#5 is one attacking a teddy bear.

Pretty funny stuff.

Our PSP team is supposedly ebaying a couple of Japanese units for testing soon so I can check out the problem first hand. I know the latest devkit can not be twisted - i.e. it's very stiff. Don't know if this means the American release will be the same though.

[Berserk]

http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~cf6y-oot/umd/fly_006.avi

Heh, another take on the flying-UMD disk. This time attacking a DS.

#5 is one attacking a teddy bear.

Pretty funny stuff.

Our PSP team is supposedly ebaying a couple of Japanese units for testing soon so I can check out the problem first hand. I know the latest devkit can not be twisted - i.e. it's very stiff. Don't know if this means the American release will be the same though.

Look at him twist the poor PSP!! Pffft sure if everyone would twist the PSP like that (very hard) it's normal that the hinges of the drive suffer and open when forced like that.

[Guden Oden]

Heh, another take on the flying-UMD disk. This time attacking a DS.

Hehe, pretty funny! They sure built in a good ejection spring... :lol: However, it's easy to see he's bending the poor thing pretty brutally. It's not as if the disc just comes jumping out without provocation... :roll: