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MaximilianSWE
11-Dec-2004, 13:35
IN these days and ages of "Sony/Nvidia"-deal and lots and lots of people seem already convinced that Xbox2 on a technical/performance level will "eat PS3 dust", I came to think/remember one thing, the ATI-Intrinsity deal.
ATI licensed Intrinsitys design that allows higher clockspeeds with standard design tools. One comment that got my attention was from an extreme tech article...
Intrinsity's Fast14 technology could enable ATI to design GPU logic that clocks up to four times faster than today's clock speeds, according to a company spokesman for Intrinsity. Current high end GPUs clock in the 400-600MHz range, so a chip using Fast14 technology could deliver GPUs that run in the 1.6 GHz to 2.4 GHz range. Fast14 doesn't help with memory clocks, including onboard cache memory, so only the logic portion of the chip would run at the high clock rates.
So the design is only logic, not memory but still, higher clockspeeds, in the Ghz, would surely give Xbox2 a performance boost.
This coupled with GDDR4 memory, which would scale up to 1.2Ghz, could be a pretty sweet combo performance wise.
What kind of Ghz-figures can be expect, if this is true? 1.2 Ghz? , 2 Ghz?
ATI expect 4X the performance, from this tech.They just didnt say here.
But it makes plenty of sence if MS or N use it, specialy if they want a real beast and cheap.
BTW go to www.Intrinsity.com (?)
They already had better results.
Don't forget Nvidia now has IBM and Sony backing them with new technologies.
Don't forget Nvidia now has IBM and Sony backing them with new technologies.
I'm sure nobody will get the opportunity to forget between now and 2006. :roll:
london-boy
11-Dec-2004, 17:04
Don't forget Nvidia now has IBM and Sony backing them with new technologies.
Everyone has IBM this time around, they're such sluts, they keep giving their services to everyone!!! :twisted:
Don't forget Nvidia now has IBM and Sony backing them with new technologies.
How does nVidia have IBM backing them? Wasn't the agreement ONLY between nVidia and Sony? Just because Sony is working with IBM doesn't mean IBM is giving nVidia ANYTHING, or "backing" them for that matter.
london-boy
11-Dec-2004, 18:09
Isn't IBM fabbing the latest Nvidia GPUs?
I'm telling you, just slap some cash on their faces and they get on thier knees.
Proforma
12-Dec-2004, 01:57
All this is good for Ameircan Business. :-)
Even ATI which has their HQ in Canada, most of the work
for the GPU's is done in the USA.
So almost all three consoles are by American companies
and one company who is creating a console is American. :-)
london-boy
12-Dec-2004, 02:10
So almost all three consoles are by American companies
and one company who is creating a console is American. :-)
Huh? Say that again?
Inane_Dork
12-Dec-2004, 02:57
So almost all three consoles are by American companies
and one company who is creating a console is American. :-)
Huh? Say that again?I think he means that IBM + nVidia + ATi account for most of next gen consoles, componentwise.
I stopped at the, "So... what?" question. :P
london-boy
12-Dec-2004, 02:58
So almost all three consoles are by American companies
and one company who is creating a console is American. :-)
Huh? Say that again?I think he means that IBM + nVidia + ATi account for most of next gen consoles, componentwise.
I stopped at the, "So... what?" question. :P
Nvidia is american?
Mulciber
12-Dec-2004, 03:01
So almost all three consoles are by American companies
and one company who is creating a console is American. :-)
Huh? Say that again?I think he means that IBM + nVidia + ATi account for most of next gen consoles, componentwise.
I stopped at the, "So... what?" question. :P
Nvidia is american?
santa clara, california
london-boy
12-Dec-2004, 03:11
Why was i thinking it's Chinese or Korean or something? :?
randycat99
12-Dec-2004, 03:22
No, silly-head- it's the North Koreans that have the nukes. :P
Mulciber
12-Dec-2004, 03:23
No, silly-head- it's the North Koreans that have the nukes. :p
ATI India has those as well
gleemax
12-Dec-2004, 04:41
TMSC is in Taiwan, if that's what you were thinking of.
Also, ATi is a Canadian company. Canada is a country like the US, but with more doughnuts per capita.
Inane_Dork
12-Dec-2004, 05:15
Nvidia is american?Last I checked. :P
Also, ATi is a Canadian company. Canada is a country like the US, but with more doughnuts per capita.Yeah, I think the guy was speaking of "America" in the sense that Canadians sometimes use it, which would be "North America" to Americans. Confusing yet? Beats the heck out of me why some want to be called Americans too.
Why was i thinking it's Chinese or Korean or something? :?
The nVIDIA CEO Jen-Hsun Huang is a Taiwanese immigrant to the U.S. He worked for AMD and LSI Logic, then co-founded nVIDIA in 1993.
What kind of Ghz-figures can be expect, if this is true? 1.2 Ghz? , 2 Ghz?
I expect at least 2 GHz, possibly more. If not its kinda dissapointing.
What kind of Ghz-figures can be expect, if this is true? 1.2 Ghz? , 2 Ghz?
I expect at least 2 GHz, possibly more. If not its kinda dissapointing.
I dunno do we have any other figures besides these press release figures ?
A jump from a 520mhz x800xt pe to a 1.2 ghz chip with out any other changes will double the performance right off .
LIttle hard pressed to believe they can jsut double the clock speeds in a year while making an even more complex chip . Even with a process shrink .
I think if we see 1ghz that will be a huge jump .
ATI expect 4X the performance, from this tech.They just didnt say here.
But it makes plenty of sence if MS or N use it, specialy if they want a real beast and cheap.
BTW go to www.Intrinsity.com (?)
They already had better results.
Maybe 4x the performance over their current top of the line, but I doubt it could make their current top of the line 4x faster right now. If it could that would basically give ati the industry.
The nVIDIA CEO Jen-Hsun Huang is a Taiwanese immigrant to the U.S. He worked for AMD and LSI Logic, then co-founded nVIDIA in 1993.
Hmm, maybe that's why nvidia seemed to have such a good relationship with AMD?(or maybe it was just easier to compete in the amd motherboard market than in the intel motherboard market)
Maybe 4x the performance over their current top of the line, but I doubt it could make their current top of the line 4x faster right now. If it could that would basically give ati the industry.
They can do that without compability issues?
What kind of Ghz-figures can be expect, if this is true? 1.2 Ghz? , 2 Ghz?
I expect at least 2 GHz, possibly more. If not its kinda dissapointing.
Why are you expecting multi-GHz when Microsoft is expecting 500MHz?
MrSingh
13-Dec-2004, 00:15
Microsoft is such a bloated company I'd expect no more than 83 MHz.
Why are you expecting multi-GHz when Microsoft is expecting 500MHz?
500 MHz if it launches this year, next year they better hit multi GHz.
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